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Attributes | |
ACN | 714495 |
Time | |
Date | 200610 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sna.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sna.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-90 Series (DC-9-90) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sna.tower |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 184 flight time total : 10900 flight time type : 2700 |
ASRS Report | 714495 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Sna tower cleared our aircraft into position and hold with another aircraft clearing down the runway and another aircraft on final for runway 29R. As we were going into position sna tower told us to 'power up' and be ready for immediate takeoff when aircraft downfield was clear. We received takeoff clearance as we were still going into position on the runway. Our operating procedures require at sna that we will not release brakes for takeoff until both engine EPR is at least 1.25 EPR with engines stabilized. Just after the captain released the brakes for takeoff; sna tower told us to 'cancel takeoff clearance' and taxi off the runway due to landing traffic behind us. After receiving these instructions our aircraft was on takeoff roll with maximum thrust applied to our engines. I (first officer) was pilot monitoring (not flying). The captain told me to tell him (the controller) unable. I relayed the message to the sna tower controller we were unable to comply since we had already started our takeoff roll. The controller then issued instructions for the aircraft behind us on final to execute a go around. I am not sure if the sna tower controller was aware that we are prohibited from making a 'rolling takeoff' at sna from runway 29R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD90 FLT CREW HAS TKOF CLRNC CANCELED AFTER STARTING TKOF ROLL AT SNA.
Narrative: SNA TWR CLRED OUR ACFT INTO POS AND HOLD WITH ANOTHER ACFT CLRING DOWN THE RWY AND ANOTHER ACFT ON FINAL FOR RWY 29R. AS WE WERE GOING INTO POS SNA TWR TOLD US TO 'PWR UP' AND BE READY FOR IMMEDIATE TKOF WHEN ACFT DOWNFIELD WAS CLR. WE RECEIVED TKOF CLRNC AS WE WERE STILL GOING INTO POS ON THE RWY. OUR OPERATING PROCS REQUIRE AT SNA THAT WE WILL NOT RELEASE BRAKES FOR TKOF UNTIL BOTH ENG EPR IS AT LEAST 1.25 EPR WITH ENGS STABILIZED. JUST AFTER THE CAPT RELEASED THE BRAKES FOR TKOF; SNA TWR TOLD US TO 'CANCEL TKOF CLRNC' AND TAXI OFF THE RWY DUE TO LNDG TFC BEHIND US. AFTER RECEIVING THESE INSTRUCTIONS OUR ACFT WAS ON TKOF ROLL WITH MAX THRUST APPLIED TO OUR ENGS. I (FO) WAS PLT MONITORING (NOT FLYING). THE CAPT TOLD ME TO TELL HIM (THE CTLR) UNABLE. I RELAYED THE MESSAGE TO THE SNA TWR CTLR WE WERE UNABLE TO COMPLY SINCE WE HAD ALREADY STARTED OUR TKOF ROLL. THE CTLR THEN ISSUED INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE ACFT BEHIND US ON FINAL TO EXECUTE A GAR. I AM NOT SURE IF THE SNA TWR CTLR WAS AWARE THAT WE ARE PROHIBITED FROM MAKING A 'ROLLING TKOF' AT SNA FROM RWY 29R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.