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Attributes | |
ACN | 716089 |
Time | |
Date | 200611 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : jfk |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 196 flight time total : 6300 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 716089 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 1550 flight time type : 140 |
ASRS Report | 716088 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Airspace Structure Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were assigned the kennedy one/canarsie climb. First officer was PF. He is new; he's never flown as PF out of jfk. He briefed the departure. We discussed it and the importance of not flying past the cri 039 degree radial. I felt he understood we fly to the cri VOR direct then outbound on the cri 176(?) degree radial per his brief; and he briefed it properly. We took off. (First officer in green data with the cri 176 degree course selected. I was in white with the VOR #2 needle selected.) he initially flew direct to the VOR but then initiated a turn to the left. I asked him where he was going as I noticed the turn continue. At that time either tower or departure called us and said that we were the second plane that day to turn before the VOR and that we were to fly directly to the VOR (per the SID). He then gave us headings to follow. The controller was rather ticked off at us and flustered the first officer. After we got to cruise we discussed what had happened. He said that although he briefed it properly (and he did) he had in his mind the 176 degree radial and thus tried to turn towards it. Contributing to this: first officer's inexperience with flying jfk 1 departure. His having the 176 degree radial set into his mfd. My talking about not flying past the 039 degrees to make your turn outbound of the cri VOR. My suggestion (I think) to bug the 176 degrees. I told him that when I fly it; I am in green data with the 176 degree course selected and my VOR #1 (cri) needle also selected as guidance to the VOR (direct).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ200 CREW TURNS EARLY ON JFK 1 CRI CLB.
Narrative: WE WERE ASSIGNED THE KENNEDY ONE/CANARSIE CLB. FO WAS PF. HE IS NEW; HE'S NEVER FLOWN AS PF OUT OF JFK. HE BRIEFED THE DEP. WE DISCUSSED IT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF NOT FLYING PAST THE CRI 039 DEG RADIAL. I FELT HE UNDERSTOOD WE FLY TO THE CRI VOR DIRECT THEN OUTBOUND ON THE CRI 176(?) DEG RADIAL PER HIS BRIEF; AND HE BRIEFED IT PROPERLY. WE TOOK OFF. (FO IN GREEN DATA WITH THE CRI 176 DEG COURSE SELECTED. I WAS IN WHITE WITH THE VOR #2 NEEDLE SELECTED.) HE INITIALLY FLEW DIRECT TO THE VOR BUT THEN INITIATED A TURN TO THE L. I ASKED HIM WHERE HE WAS GOING AS I NOTICED THE TURN CONTINUE. AT THAT TIME EITHER TWR OR DEP CALLED US AND SAID THAT WE WERE THE SECOND PLANE THAT DAY TO TURN BEFORE THE VOR AND THAT WE WERE TO FLY DIRECTLY TO THE VOR (PER THE SID). HE THEN GAVE US HDGS TO FOLLOW. THE CTLR WAS RATHER TICKED OFF AT US AND FLUSTERED THE FO. AFTER WE GOT TO CRUISE WE DISCUSSED WHAT HAD HAPPENED. HE SAID THAT ALTHOUGH HE BRIEFED IT PROPERLY (AND HE DID) HE HAD IN HIS MIND THE 176 DEG RADIAL AND THUS TRIED TO TURN TOWARDS IT. CONTRIBUTING TO THIS: FO'S INEXPERIENCE WITH FLYING JFK 1 DEP. HIS HAVING THE 176 DEG RADIAL SET INTO HIS MFD. MY TALKING ABOUT NOT FLYING PAST THE 039 DEGS TO MAKE YOUR TURN OUTBOUND OF THE CRI VOR. MY SUGGESTION (I THINK) TO BUG THE 176 DEGS. I TOLD HIM THAT WHEN I FLY IT; I AM IN GREEN DATA WITH THE 176 DEG COURSE SELECTED AND MY VOR #1 (CRI) NEEDLE ALSO SELECTED AS GUIDANCE TO THE VOR (DIRECT).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.