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Attributes | |
ACN | 725774 |
Time | |
Date | 200701 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : worth |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 4500 |
ASRS Report | 725774 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : wake turbulence non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
After departure fort worth center requested that I call dfw TRACON on landing regarding a possible pilot deviation. The first officer and I were puzzled by this request; as we both believed that the departure had been normal and properly flown. After thinking about it for a bit; I thought that possibly departure had expected us to be on one of the RNAV departures; when we were on the worth 5; due to an inoperative FMS. I called back to departure on the radio; and asked if that were the problem. He replied that we should have been on a 185 degree heading; and possibly had a wind drift problem. The first officer and I discussed this. We believe we had been on the correct heading. We did think that possibly a momentary heading deviation caused by a wake turbulence encounter we had experienced had been the problem. On arrival; I called the TRACON. The gentleman on the phone informed me that our track had not agreed with what they had anticipated; or observed from other departing aircraft; that they were going to file a pilot deviation; and that there had been no loss of separation. This was a VMC departure; and as such a substantial portion of our attention was outside. Of particular concern was the B757 ahead of us; as we appeared to have less separation from him than normal. There was the wake turbulence encounter; which though not severe; did demand some attention. Particularly from the first officer who was flying. I was also trying to locate visually an aircraft departing the east side and observed roughly abeam us on TCAS. After some more discussion; and considering the TRACON manager's information regarding our track versus that of the other departing aircraft; we think it is possible that we failed to change the heading to the required 185 degrees when we selected heading select; and then failed to notice and/or correct that error. The solution appears to be more frequent; and better cross-check; not only on the flight deck and the salmon bugs; but the raw data.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 DEPARTING ON WORTH SID FROM DFW FAILS TO TURN TO 185 DEGS AS CHARTED.
Narrative: AFTER DEPARTURE FORT WORTH CTR REQUESTED THAT I CALL DFW TRACON ON LNDG REGARDING A POSSIBLE PLT DEV. THE FO AND I WERE PUZZLED BY THIS REQUEST; AS WE BOTH BELIEVED THAT THE DEP HAD BEEN NORMAL AND PROPERLY FLOWN. AFTER THINKING ABOUT IT FOR A BIT; I THOUGHT THAT POSSIBLY DEP HAD EXPECTED US TO BE ON ONE OF THE RNAV DEPS; WHEN WE WERE ON THE WORTH 5; DUE TO AN INOP FMS. I CALLED BACK TO DEP ON THE RADIO; AND ASKED IF THAT WERE THE PROB. HE REPLIED THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON A 185 DEG HEADING; AND POSSIBLY HAD A WIND DRIFT PROB. THE FO AND I DISCUSSED THIS. WE BELIEVE WE HAD BEEN ON THE CORRECT HEADING. WE DID THINK THAT POSSIBLY A MOMENTARY HEADING DEVIATION CAUSED BY A WAKE TURB ENCOUNTER WE HAD EXPERIENCED HAD BEEN THE PROB. ON ARR; I CALLED THE TRACON. THE GENTLEMAN ON THE PHONE INFORMED ME THAT OUR TRACK HAD NOT AGREED WITH WHAT THEY HAD ANTICIPATED; OR OBSERVED FROM OTHER DEPARTING ACFT; THAT THEY WERE GOING TO FILE A PLT DEVIATION; AND THAT THERE HAD BEEN NO LOSS OF SEPARATION. THIS WAS A VMC DEP; AND AS SUCH A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF OUR ATTENTION WAS OUTSIDE. OF PARTICULAR CONCERN WAS THE B757 AHEAD OF US; AS WE APPEARED TO HAVE LESS SEPARATION FROM HIM THAN NORMAL. THERE WAS THE WAKE TURB ENCOUNTER; WHICH THOUGH NOT SEVERE; DID DEMAND SOME ATTENTION. PARTICULARLY FROM THE FO WHO WAS FLYING. I WAS ALSO TRYING TO LOCATE VISUALLY AN ACFT DEPARTING THE EAST SIDE AND OBSERVED ROUGHLY ABEAM US ON TCAS. AFTER SOME MORE DISCUSSION; AND CONSIDERING THE TRACON MANAGER'S INFORMATION REGARDING OUR TRACK VERSUS THAT OF THE OTHER DEPARTING ACFT; WE THINK IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE FAILED TO CHANGE THE HEADING TO THE REQUIRED 185 DEGS WHEN WE SELECTED HEADING SELECT; AND THEN FAILED TO NOTICE AND/OR CORRECT THAT ERROR. THE SOLUTION APPEARS TO BE MORE FREQUENT; AND BETTER CROSS-CHECK; NOT ONLY ON THE FLT DECK AND THE SALMON BUGS; BUT THE RAW DATA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.