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C-56X flight crew departing teb penetrated ewr airspace as they climbed from 1500 ft on the teb five departure.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 755922 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200710 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Citation Excel |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure sid : teb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 17600 flight time type : 75 |
| ASRS Report | 755922 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
First officer was flying out of teb. We were very aware of the 1500 ft altitude restriction and made a large power change at 400 ft AGL; and then retracted the flaps. We then climbed very slowly to 1500 ft; and were switched to departure control. At 1500 ft MSL the FMS commanded a turn to 280 degrees as per the SID and I saw 4.5 DME from teb and instructed the first officer to climb to 2000 ft MSL. I also made this statement to departure control. The controller stopped us and told us we were still dragging the ewr airspace. Within a matter of a few seconds we were instructed to turn to 300 degrees and climb to 6000 ft MSL. I am not sure if I misread the DME. However we did climb up to 1700 MSL before the controller corrected us. I think the slow climb and the intensity of flying out of teb may have caused this confusion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C-56X FLT CREW DEPARTING TEB PENETRATED EWR AIRSPACE AS THEY CLIMBED FROM 1500 FT ON THE TEB FIVE DEP.
Narrative: FO WAS FLYING OUT OF TEB. WE WERE VERY AWARE OF THE 1500 FT ALTITUDE RESTRICTION AND MADE A LARGE POWER CHANGE AT 400 FT AGL; AND THEN RETRACTED THE FLAPS. WE THEN CLIMBED VERY SLOWLY TO 1500 FT; AND WERE SWITCHED TO DEPARTURE CONTROL. AT 1500 FT MSL THE FMS COMMANDED A TURN TO 280 DEGREES AS PER THE SID AND I SAW 4.5 DME FROM TEB AND INSTRUCTED THE FO TO CLIMB TO 2000 FT MSL. I ALSO MADE THIS STATEMENT TO DEPARTURE CONTROL. THE CONTROLLER STOPPED US AND TOLD US WE WERE STILL DRAGGING THE EWR AIRSPACE. WITHIN A MATTER OF A FEW SECONDS WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO TURN TO 300 DEGREES AND CLIMB TO 6000 FT MSL. I AM NOT SURE IF I MISREAD THE DME. HOWEVER WE DID CLIMB UP TO 1700 MSL BEFORE THE CONTROLLER CORRECTED US. I THINK THE SLOW CLIMB AND THE INTENSITY OF FLYING OUT OF TEB MAY HAVE CAUSED THIS CONFUSION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.