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Attributes | |
ACN | 763910 |
Time | |
Date | 200712 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : see.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : see.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 550 flight time type : 80 |
ASRS Report | 763910 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Our aircraft was on a regular training flight; the student being on one of the last flts before his private pilot check ride. We were performing a diversion from cuyamaca lake to on the rocks private airport; a common diversion frequently chosen by local examiners for the check ride. Not more than 1 min after overflying on the rocks; I noticed a high wing retractable gear aircraft emerge from below us; headed towards our 1-2 O'clock position. Horizontal separation between the 2 aircraft must have been non-existent; vertical separation couldn't be more than 50 ft. Since at that point the 2 aircraft were on diverging course; no evasive action was taken from our side; we remained south of see localizer-D contacted see tower appropriately; and conducted a safe landing at see runway 27L. On tower frequency we heard an aircraft reporting an near midair collision; and after verifying the visual features of that aircraft match with our observation we confirmed our aircraft was the other plane involved in the incident. WX conditions at the time of the incident were VMC; no clouds; visibility P6SM. We were communicating on frequency 122.75 MHZ; the CTAF for the san diego practice areas. No evasive actions had been taken from my side; since by the time I had visual contact with the other aircraft it was 'already too late.' corrective actions: 1) in the future I will exercise extra caution when crossing any IFR approach path; and in the immediate vicinity of these approachs. 2) I will try to fly well clear (above or below -- airspace and terrain permitting) of the approach altitudes. 3) when flying in these areas I will consider monitoring the appropriate ATC frequencys (in case dual radio units are installed); while on air-to-air.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT PLTS ABOARD C152 HAVE NMAC DURING PRACTICE DIVERSION.
Narrative: OUR ACFT WAS ON A REGULAR TRAINING FLT; THE STUDENT BEING ON ONE OF THE LAST FLTS BEFORE HIS PVT PLT CHK RIDE. WE WERE PERFORMING A DIVERSION FROM CUYAMACA LAKE TO ON THE ROCKS PVT ARPT; A COMMON DIVERSION FREQUENTLY CHOSEN BY LCL EXAMINERS FOR THE CHK RIDE. NOT MORE THAN 1 MIN AFTER OVERFLYING ON THE ROCKS; I NOTICED A HIGH WING RETRACTABLE GEAR ACFT EMERGE FROM BELOW US; HEADED TOWARDS OUR 1-2 O'CLOCK POS. HORIZ SEPARATION BTWN THE 2 ACFT MUST HAVE BEEN NON-EXISTENT; VERT SEPARATION COULDN'T BE MORE THAN 50 FT. SINCE AT THAT POINT THE 2 ACFT WERE ON DIVERGING COURSE; NO EVASIVE ACTION WAS TAKEN FROM OUR SIDE; WE REMAINED S OF SEE LOC-D CONTACTED SEE TWR APPROPRIATELY; AND CONDUCTED A SAFE LNDG AT SEE RWY 27L. ON TWR FREQ WE HEARD AN ACFT REPORTING AN NMAC; AND AFTER VERIFYING THE VISUAL FEATURES OF THAT ACFT MATCH WITH OUR OBSERVATION WE CONFIRMED OUR ACFT WAS THE OTHER PLANE INVOLVED IN THE INCIDENT. WX CONDITIONS AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT WERE VMC; NO CLOUDS; VISIBILITY P6SM. WE WERE COMMUNICATING ON FREQ 122.75 MHZ; THE CTAF FOR THE SAN DIEGO PRACTICE AREAS. NO EVASIVE ACTIONS HAD BEEN TAKEN FROM MY SIDE; SINCE BY THE TIME I HAD VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE OTHER ACFT IT WAS 'ALREADY TOO LATE.' CORRECTIVE ACTIONS: 1) IN THE FUTURE I WILL EXERCISE EXTRA CAUTION WHEN XING ANY IFR APCH PATH; AND IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY OF THESE APCHS. 2) I WILL TRY TO FLY WELL CLR (ABOVE OR BELOW -- AIRSPACE AND TERRAIN PERMITTING) OF THE APCH ALTS. 3) WHEN FLYING IN THESE AREAS I WILL CONSIDER MONITORING THE APPROPRIATE ATC FREQS (IN CASE DUAL RADIO UNITS ARE INSTALLED); WHILE ON AIR-TO-AIR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.