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Attributes | |
ACN | 765240 |
Time | |
Date | 200712 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sea.airport |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl single value : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : chins |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 765240 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 |
ASRS Report | 765245 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : became reoriented |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We failed to notice that seattle had changed to a north flow for landing. We programmed the FMS/CDU for south flow. This resulted in us crossing raddy intersection at 16000 ft rather than 12000 ft. ATC noticed that we were unusually high on our arrival and asked if we were set up for north flow. We admitted our error to ATC. ATC informed us that no conflict existed; and to continue our approach. We were able to comply with all other altitude/speed restrs on the arrival. This error resulted from lack of alertness. We both failed to notice that seattle had changed to north flow; and briefed the arrival based on south flow. The error was corrected early enough to allow a normal descent and approach to the airport. Flight crew must be alert at all times. Always check and double-check important items like altitude restrs. Always make sure we have the most up-to-date information; like current ATIS. Supplemental information from acn 765245: the FMS was programmed in advance for south flow on the chins 5 arrival and we failed to double-check the altitude restr for north flow after switching. After ZSE noticed we were high at raddy; they commented on whether we had copied the 'chins 5 landing north' clearance. We admitted our error and verified with ATC that no conflict existed. This error was due to lack of alertness. No conflict existed with approach control and we continued our descent expeditiously for a normal approach to runway 34C. We should have been more on task and discussed the arrival more in depth; especially in regards to runway use relative to altitude restrs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 FLT CREW DOES NOT CORRECT CROSSING RESTRICTIONS ON CHINS 5 INTO SEA FOR NORTH FLOW AFTER RWY CHANGE; WHEN FMC IS PROGRAMMED FOR SOUTH FLOW.
Narrative: WE FAILED TO NOTICE THAT SEATTLE HAD CHANGED TO A N FLOW FOR LNDG. WE PROGRAMMED THE FMS/CDU FOR S FLOW. THIS RESULTED IN US XING RADDY INTXN AT 16000 FT RATHER THAN 12000 FT. ATC NOTICED THAT WE WERE UNUSUALLY HIGH ON OUR ARR AND ASKED IF WE WERE SET UP FOR N FLOW. WE ADMITTED OUR ERROR TO ATC. ATC INFORMED US THAT NO CONFLICT EXISTED; AND TO CONTINUE OUR APCH. WE WERE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER ALT/SPD RESTRS ON THE ARR. THIS ERROR RESULTED FROM LACK OF ALERTNESS. WE BOTH FAILED TO NOTICE THAT SEATTLE HAD CHANGED TO N FLOW; AND BRIEFED THE ARR BASED ON S FLOW. THE ERROR WAS CORRECTED EARLY ENOUGH TO ALLOW A NORMAL DSCNT AND APCH TO THE ARPT. FLT CREW MUST BE ALERT AT ALL TIMES. ALWAYS CHK AND DOUBLE-CHK IMPORTANT ITEMS LIKE ALT RESTRS. ALWAYS MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MOST UP-TO-DATE INFO; LIKE CURRENT ATIS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 765245: THE FMS WAS PROGRAMMED IN ADVANCE FOR S FLOW ON THE CHINS 5 ARR AND WE FAILED TO DOUBLE-CHK THE ALT RESTR FOR N FLOW AFTER SWITCHING. AFTER ZSE NOTICED WE WERE HIGH AT RADDY; THEY COMMENTED ON WHETHER WE HAD COPIED THE 'CHINS 5 LNDG N' CLRNC. WE ADMITTED OUR ERROR AND VERIFIED WITH ATC THAT NO CONFLICT EXISTED. THIS ERROR WAS DUE TO LACK OF ALERTNESS. NO CONFLICT EXISTED WITH APCH CTL AND WE CONTINUED OUR DSCNT EXPEDITIOUSLY FOR A NORMAL APCH TO RWY 34C. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE ON TASK AND DISCUSSED THE ARR MORE IN DEPTH; ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO RWY USE RELATIVE TO ALT RESTRS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.