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Attributes | |
ACN | 774082 |
Time | |
Date | 200802 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fay.airport |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : fay.tracon tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : mountie |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : fay.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 450 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 774082 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5900 flight time type : 3445 |
ASRS Report | 773648 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We just took off from fay. We were given runway heading 2000 ft. Once we were level at 2000 ft; ATC gave us a heading then cancelled the heading and gave us climb maintain 4000 ft. Then as we started to climb; they gave us the heading again (I think it was 265 degrees) and told us to level at 4000 ft. As soon as we leveled; ATC told us to look for 'traffic at 12 O'clock position; 4500 ft; cessna.' as I told him we did not see the traffic; we got a descending RA. I told the captain to descend and looked up from the TCAS screen to see the cessna go directly over us by what looked like 200 ft. The last time I looked at the TCAS; it showed the cessna at +300 ft. I told ATC that we had to descend to follow an RA and he just told us that he had 'separation of 500 ft' and that the cessna was assigned 4500 ft. Over the radio we confirmed that we had the correct altimeter setting; as did the cessna. At the time we were the only 2 aircraft in the fay area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ DEP FROM FAY AT 4000 EXPERIENCED TCAS RA WITH VFR TFC AT 4500; TFC ISSUED BY ATC.
Narrative: WE JUST TOOK OFF FROM FAY. WE WERE GIVEN RWY HDG 2000 FT. ONCE WE WERE LEVEL AT 2000 FT; ATC GAVE US A HDG THEN CANCELLED THE HDG AND GAVE US CLB MAINTAIN 4000 FT. THEN AS WE STARTED TO CLB; THEY GAVE US THE HDG AGAIN (I THINK IT WAS 265 DEGS) AND TOLD US TO LEVEL AT 4000 FT. AS SOON AS WE LEVELED; ATC TOLD US TO LOOK FOR 'TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK POS; 4500 FT; CESSNA.' AS I TOLD HIM WE DID NOT SEE THE TFC; WE GOT A DSNDING RA. I TOLD THE CAPT TO DSND AND LOOKED UP FROM THE TCAS SCREEN TO SEE THE CESSNA GO DIRECTLY OVER US BY WHAT LOOKED LIKE 200 FT. THE LAST TIME I LOOKED AT THE TCAS; IT SHOWED THE CESSNA AT +300 FT. I TOLD ATC THAT WE HAD TO DSND TO FOLLOW AN RA AND HE JUST TOLD US THAT HE HAD 'SEPARATION OF 500 FT' AND THAT THE CESSNA WAS ASSIGNED 4500 FT. OVER THE RADIO WE CONFIRMED THAT WE HAD THE CORRECT ALTIMETER SETTING; AS DID THE CESSNA. AT THE TIME WE WERE THE ONLY 2 ACFT IN THE FAY AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.