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Attributes | |
ACN | 780316 |
Time | |
Date | 200803 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw.airport |
State Reference | MI |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : aco |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 780316 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 780315 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were on the aco departure climbing out of dtw when ATC cleared us direct to the waypoint maars. We executed the direction and proceeded direct to maars on autoplt; engaged in LNAV and VNAV. After maars; we went direct aco. The controller asked us about sphre waypoint and then asked if we were going direct to aco at this time; which we were. She then said that we had missed sphre waypoint. She said that this was happening to a lot of airlines and that it was no big deal. We were then switched to the next ZOB controller who gave us a contact number and asked us to call when we landed. The first ZOB controller said that this had been happening to a lot of airlines (FMC problem) and that it was no big deal. The second controller we talked to had us call and said that sphre waypoint had been dropping out for many airlines and that the FMS problem had not been fixed so he needed to do something about it to make it stop. He informed us he would be filing a report and contacting our company.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-800 ON THE DTW ACO DEP WAS CLRED DIRECT MAARS. THE FMS DROPPED THE SPHRE WAYPOINT AND FLEW DIRECT ACO.
Narrative: WE WERE ON THE ACO DEP CLBING OUT OF DTW WHEN ATC CLRED US DIRECT TO THE WAYPOINT MAARS. WE EXECUTED THE DIRECTION AND PROCEEDED DIRECT TO MAARS ON AUTOPLT; ENGAGED IN LNAV AND VNAV. AFTER MAARS; WE WENT DIRECT ACO. THE CTLR ASKED US ABOUT SPHRE WAYPOINT AND THEN ASKED IF WE WERE GOING DIRECT TO ACO AT THIS TIME; WHICH WE WERE. SHE THEN SAID THAT WE HAD MISSED SPHRE WAYPOINT. SHE SAID THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING TO A LOT OF AIRLINES AND THAT IT WAS NO BIG DEAL. WE WERE THEN SWITCHED TO THE NEXT ZOB CTLR WHO GAVE US A CONTACT NUMBER AND ASKED US TO CALL WHEN WE LANDED. THE FIRST ZOB CTLR SAID THAT THIS HAD BEEN HAPPENING TO A LOT OF AIRLINES (FMC PROB) AND THAT IT WAS NO BIG DEAL. THE SECOND CTLR WE TALKED TO HAD US CALL AND SAID THAT SPHRE WAYPOINT HAD BEEN DROPPING OUT FOR MANY AIRLINES AND THAT THE FMS PROB HAD NOT BEEN FIXED SO HE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT TO MAKE IT STOP. HE INFORMED US HE WOULD BE FILING A RPT AND CONTACTING OUR COMPANY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.