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Attributes | |
ACN | 780943 |
Time | |
Date | 200804 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL601 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 18900 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 780943 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 85 flight time total : 17600 flight time type : 2100 |
ASRS Report | 780944 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : birds non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor |
Primary Problem | Environmental Factor |
Narrative:
Departed teb on teb 5 SID -- initiated early climb at 4.0 DME to fly over large flock of migratory birds. Controller made an issue of the deviation. However; in our opinion it was safer to fly over the birds than through them. No other aircraft noted on teb 5. We had no time to advise departure control of immediate action.supplemental information from acn 780944: departed teb on runway 24; teb 5 SID; climbed .5 DME early to avoid a flock of birds leveled off at 2000 ft; SID altitude 1500 ft. Controller issued a climb to 6000 ft. At 6000 ft the controller gave us a frequency change and said we had busted the SID altitude. The deviation was a safety issue; no other aircraft were on TCAS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL601 FLT CREW CLBS EARLY ON THE TEB 5 DEP TO AVOID A FLOCK OF BIRDS.
Narrative: DEPARTED TEB ON TEB 5 SID -- INITIATED EARLY CLB AT 4.0 DME TO FLY OVER LARGE FLOCK OF MIGRATORY BIRDS. CTLR MADE AN ISSUE OF THE DEVIATION. HOWEVER; IN OUR OPINION IT WAS SAFER TO FLY OVER THE BIRDS THAN THROUGH THEM. NO OTHER ACFT NOTED ON TEB 5. WE HAD NO TIME TO ADVISE DEP CTL OF IMMEDIATE ACTION.SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 780944: DEPARTED TEB ON RWY 24; TEB 5 SID; CLBED .5 DME EARLY TO AVOID A FLOCK OF BIRDS LEVELED OFF AT 2000 FT; SID ALTITUDE 1500 FT. CTLR ISSUED A CLB TO 6000 FT. AT 6000 FT THE CTLR GAVE US A FREQ CHANGE AND SAID WE HAD BUSTED THE SID ALTITUDE. THE DEV WAS A SAFETY ISSUE; NO OTHER ACFT WERE ON TCAS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.