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Attributes | |
ACN | 788940 |
Time | |
Date | 200805 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : vdz.airport |
State Reference | AK |
Altitude | msl single value : 7800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zan.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zan.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 52 flight time total : 1381 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 788940 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
My student and I were on a commercial training cross country flight to valdez pioneer field (vdz) in valdez; ak. At approximately 1 hour 10 mins into our IFR flight plan; we reported our position at 11000 ft MSL; 10 mi north of peppi (the IAF) as instructed; and were cleared by zan for the lda/DME-H approach into vdz. At this point; we were instructed to resume own navigation; to switch to the local advisory 122.9 CTAF frequency; and to report back to ATC after executing the published missed approach procedure. Visibility and sky conditions were mixed IMC/VMC. We began the approach by turning northeast to capture and fly the 40 DME arc off the 259 degree radial from joh VOR and began to descend to 8000 ft MSL. As we neared the next fix at kucet (at 319 degree radial off of joh) toward the final portion of the arc; my student noted that we were inside the arc at about DME 37.5 and turned the aircraft about 30 degrees to the left to a northerly heading to re-intercept the arc; which he accomplished just prior to passing over kucet. At kucet; he began the turn to a heading of 119 degrees to capture the next intermediate segment between kucet and localizer to intercept at ineyo and descended to 7800 ft. At this point; we were approximately 25 NM west of vdz. As we became established on this intermediate approach segment; we received a call from an airline flight indicating to contact zan. We contacted ATC immediately and were instructed to terminate the approach; turn to a heading of 090 degrees; and climb to 9000 ft. We complied with these instructions and asked ATC what the problem was. (My initial thought was traffic avoidance.) at the time ATC contacted us; we had the vdz airport in sight. The ceilings at vdz were reported 6000 ft broken. Winds were out of the west at about 16 KTS; favoring a circle-to-land approach to runway 24. ATC explained that according to their radar we appeared to be heading toward an unsafe mia. We explained to ATC that our visual and instrument references placed us on the intermediate segment between kucet and ineyo on course for localizer intercept. We indicated that we had the airport in sight. ATC then cleared us to resume the approach and contact them by phone after landing at the conclusion of the flight. Once back on the ground; we spoke with zan. They indicated that they became alarmed when they observed our aircraft turning to a northerly heading away from the localizer during the initial part of the approach shortly after giving us the approach and frequency change clrncs. We reviewed our flight path on the tracking system and determined that we had; indeed; drifted too far inside the arc. We observed the point where we attempted to re-capture the 40 DME arc by turning to a northerly heading away from the localizer final approach course. We appreciate ATC's oversight and learned that even minor route or altdevs will be cause for alarm and possible ATC intervention.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 STUDENT AND INSTRUCTOR RECEIVE RELAYED CLRNC FROM ATC TO ABANDON THEIR APCH WHILE SHOOTING A CIRCUITOUS LDA/DME ARRIVAL AND APCH TO NON-TOWERED VDZ.
Narrative: MY STUDENT AND I WERE ON A COMMERCIAL TRAINING XCOUNTRY FLT TO VALDEZ PIONEER FIELD (VDZ) IN VALDEZ; AK. AT APPROX 1 HR 10 MINS INTO OUR IFR FLT PLAN; WE RPTED OUR POS AT 11000 FT MSL; 10 MI N OF PEPPI (THE IAF) AS INSTRUCTED; AND WERE CLRED BY ZAN FOR THE LDA/DME-H APCH INTO VDZ. AT THIS POINT; WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO RESUME OWN NAV; TO SWITCH TO THE LCL ADVISORY 122.9 CTAF FREQ; AND TO RPT BACK TO ATC AFTER EXECUTING THE PUBLISHED MISSED APCH PROC. VISIBILITY AND SKY CONDITIONS WERE MIXED IMC/VMC. WE BEGAN THE APCH BY TURNING NE TO CAPTURE AND FLY THE 40 DME ARC OFF THE 259 DEG RADIAL FROM JOH VOR AND BEGAN TO DSND TO 8000 FT MSL. AS WE NEARED THE NEXT FIX AT KUCET (AT 319 DEG RADIAL OFF OF JOH) TOWARD THE FINAL PORTION OF THE ARC; MY STUDENT NOTED THAT WE WERE INSIDE THE ARC AT ABOUT DME 37.5 AND TURNED THE ACFT ABOUT 30 DEGS TO THE L TO A NORTHERLY HDG TO RE-INTERCEPT THE ARC; WHICH HE ACCOMPLISHED JUST PRIOR TO PASSING OVER KUCET. AT KUCET; HE BEGAN THE TURN TO A HDG OF 119 DEGS TO CAPTURE THE NEXT INTERMEDIATE SEGMENT BTWN KUCET AND LOC TO INTERCEPT AT INEYO AND DSNDED TO 7800 FT. AT THIS POINT; WE WERE APPROX 25 NM W OF VDZ. AS WE BECAME ESTABLISHED ON THIS INTERMEDIATE APCH SEGMENT; WE RECEIVED A CALL FROM AN AIRLINE FLT INDICATING TO CONTACT ZAN. WE CONTACTED ATC IMMEDIATELY AND WERE INSTRUCTED TO TERMINATE THE APCH; TURN TO A HDG OF 090 DEGS; AND CLB TO 9000 FT. WE COMPLIED WITH THESE INSTRUCTIONS AND ASKED ATC WHAT THE PROB WAS. (MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS TFC AVOIDANCE.) AT THE TIME ATC CONTACTED US; WE HAD THE VDZ ARPT IN SIGHT. THE CEILINGS AT VDZ WERE RPTED 6000 FT BROKEN. WINDS WERE OUT OF THE W AT ABOUT 16 KTS; FAVORING A CIRCLE-TO-LAND APCH TO RWY 24. ATC EXPLAINED THAT ACCORDING TO THEIR RADAR WE APPEARED TO BE HEADING TOWARD AN UNSAFE MIA. WE EXPLAINED TO ATC THAT OUR VISUAL AND INST REFS PLACED US ON THE INTERMEDIATE SEGMENT BTWN KUCET AND INEYO ON COURSE FOR LOC INTERCEPT. WE INDICATED THAT WE HAD THE ARPT IN SIGHT. ATC THEN CLRED US TO RESUME THE APCH AND CONTACT THEM BY PHONE AFTER LNDG AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE FLT. ONCE BACK ON THE GND; WE SPOKE WITH ZAN. THEY INDICATED THAT THEY BECAME ALARMED WHEN THEY OBSERVED OUR ACFT TURNING TO A NORTHERLY HDG AWAY FROM THE LOC DURING THE INITIAL PART OF THE APCH SHORTLY AFTER GIVING US THE APCH AND FREQ CHANGE CLRNCS. WE REVIEWED OUR FLT PATH ON THE TRACKING SYS AND DETERMINED THAT WE HAD; INDEED; DRIFTED TOO FAR INSIDE THE ARC. WE OBSERVED THE POINT WHERE WE ATTEMPTED TO RE-CAPTURE THE 40 DME ARC BY TURNING TO A NORTHERLY HDG AWAY FROM THE LOC FINAL APCH COURSE. WE APPRECIATE ATC'S OVERSIGHT AND LEARNED THAT EVEN MINOR RTE OR ALTDEVS WILL BE CAUSE FOR ALARM AND POSSIBLE ATC INTERVENTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.