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Attributes | |
ACN | 804197 |
Time | |
Date | 200809 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure sid : zzz |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 133 |
ASRS Report | 804197 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
My first officer received the pre departure clearance and put the clearance in the FMC just as it is written on the pre departure clearance. He forgot to check to see if it was amended. When I reviewed the route as I always do in the FMC; it was exactly the same as on my release. I did not check the pre departure clearance. Off we went on the wrong SID. ATC didn't seem to care and simply gave us a direct down the road. I hate the requirement to decipher the pre departure clearance hieroglyphics when there is no need and one could simply write it out long hand. Why is the 'old' clearance even on the pre departure clearance when it can only cause potential violations? Who cares what the old clearance was? I love smart automation; but when it is as unusable as being required to figure out which clearance is ours and what dots and dashes and slashes mean is nothing more than plain dumb. What a clearance is; is vitally important. It needs to be written out in full from start to end. Not the next one; not the last one; not the last with a change. The current one in full. I think we should only use verbal clrncs until this gets fixed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-700 CREW DID NOT LOAD AN FMC WITH A PDC ROUTE REVISION BECAUSE THE REVISION WAS NOT SEEN. THE CREW SUGGESTS SENDING ONLY THE DESIRED FLT PLAN.
Narrative: MY FO RECEIVED THE PDC AND PUT THE CLRNC IN THE FMC JUST AS IT IS WRITTEN ON THE PDC. HE FORGOT TO CHK TO SEE IF IT WAS AMENDED. WHEN I REVIEWED THE RTE AS I ALWAYS DO IN THE FMC; IT WAS EXACTLY THE SAME AS ON MY RELEASE. I DID NOT CHK THE PDC. OFF WE WENT ON THE WRONG SID. ATC DIDN'T SEEM TO CARE AND SIMPLY GAVE US A DIRECT DOWN THE ROAD. I HATE THE REQUIREMENT TO DECIPHER THE PDC HIEROGLYPHICS WHEN THERE IS NO NEED AND ONE COULD SIMPLY WRITE IT OUT LONG HAND. WHY IS THE 'OLD' CLRNC EVEN ON THE PDC WHEN IT CAN ONLY CAUSE POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS? WHO CARES WHAT THE OLD CLRNC WAS? I LOVE SMART AUTOMATION; BUT WHEN IT IS AS UNUSABLE AS BEING REQUIRED TO FIGURE OUT WHICH CLRNC IS OURS AND WHAT DOTS AND DASHES AND SLASHES MEAN IS NOTHING MORE THAN PLAIN DUMB. WHAT A CLRNC IS; IS VITALLY IMPORTANT. IT NEEDS TO BE WRITTEN OUT IN FULL FROM START TO END. NOT THE NEXT ONE; NOT THE LAST ONE; NOT THE LAST WITH A CHANGE. THE CURRENT ONE IN FULL. I THINK WE SHOULD ONLY USE VERBAL CLRNCS UNTIL THIS GETS FIXED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.