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Attributes | |
ACN | 80559 |
Time | |
Date | 198801 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 450 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 80559 |
Person 2 | |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was taxiing flight into position on runway 18C washington national airport with an air carrier B large transport on j-off roll, when washington tower changed their mind the last minute, and told me to, 'hold short.' I executed their command immediately but the aircraft went beyond the hold short lines and washington tower made air carrier C do a go around. The yellow hold lines were hard to see due to sand covering them up and the darkness. I had a washington ARTCC controller in jump seat and he didn't see how I could have handled it any differently. It was a last minute hold short and we were just a little close to the active runway. The air carrier behind me advised washington national tower we were beyond the yellow 'hold short lines'. One solution would be to keep those lines brightened up more often in the winter time. Also maybe some yellow bar type lights for night time would help.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG GIVEN LATE CLRNC TO HOLD SHORT STOPPED ACROSS HOLD LINE AND ACFT ON APCH HAD TO EXECUTE GO AROUND.
Narrative: I WAS TAXIING FLT INTO POSITION ON RWY 18C WASHINGTON NATIONAL ARPT WITH AN ACR B LGT ON J-OFF ROLL, WHEN WASHINGTON TWR CHANGED THEIR MIND THE LAST MINUTE, AND TOLD ME TO, 'HOLD SHORT.' I EXECUTED THEIR COMMAND IMMEDIATELY BUT THE ACFT WENT BEYOND THE HOLD SHORT LINES AND WASHINGTON TWR MADE ACR C DO A GO AROUND. THE YELLOW HOLD LINES WERE HARD TO SEE DUE TO SAND COVERING THEM UP AND THE DARKNESS. I HAD A WASHINGTON ARTCC CTLR IN JUMP SEAT AND HE DIDN'T SEE HOW I COULD HAVE HANDLED IT ANY DIFFERENTLY. IT WAS A LAST MINUTE HOLD SHORT AND WE WERE JUST A LITTLE CLOSE TO THE ACTIVE RWY. THE AIR CARRIER BEHIND ME ADVISED WASHINGTON NATIONAL TWR WE WERE BEYOND THE YELLOW 'HOLD SHORT LINES'. ONE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO KEEP THOSE LINES BRIGHTENED UP MORE OFTEN IN THE WINTER TIME. ALSO MAYBE SOME YELLOW BAR TYPE LIGHTS FOR NIGHT TIME WOULD HELP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.