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Attributes | |
ACN | 811033 |
Time | |
Date | 200811 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : frg.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft High Wing 1 Eng Fixed Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 47 flight time total : 150 flight time type : 80 |
ASRS Report | 811033 |
Events | |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Situations | |
Airport | markings : frg.airport signage : frg.airport |
Narrative:
Frg is under construction. Bravo taxiway is closed and being moved. Yesterday. I called frg ground for instruction to the active runway. Aware of the taxiway construction; I was prepared to note the instructions. I wrote down the following: 'la R32 HS1;' shorthand for: 'left on alpha; right on runway 32; hold short at 1.' when I got to runway 1; I was looking for lahso markings -- there aren't any. I called ground and said; 'I'm confused' about where I should be. At no time did I enter runway 1 -- I did stop and hold short. There is; apparently; no designated point at which to hold short. The tower expressed some concern about my position; I did not think there was any reason for concern. I would suggest; however; that there be some kind of hold short marking or sign at least until the construction is completed.callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated that he was taxiing down runway 14 and is sure that he stopped before crossing runway 1/19. However; the tower was unsure about his stopping intentions. There was no further problem about the misunderstanding; but the reporter simply could not clearly identify a point on runway 14/32 where the aircraft should have been stopped.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SMA PLT RPTS THAT FRG RWY 14/32 IS USED AS A TXWY DURING TXWY CONSTRUCTION BUT NO HOLD SHORT LINES ARE ON RWY 14/32 FOR RWY 1/19. THIS COULD LEAD TO A RWY INCURSION.
Narrative: FRG IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. BRAVO TXWY IS CLOSED AND BEING MOVED. YESTERDAY. I CALLED FRG GND FOR INSTRUCTION TO THE ACTIVE RWY. AWARE OF THE TXWY CONSTRUCTION; I WAS PREPARED TO NOTE THE INSTRUCTIONS. I WROTE DOWN THE FOLLOWING: 'LA R32 HS1;' SHORTHAND FOR: 'LEFT ON ALPHA; RIGHT ON RWY 32; HOLD SHORT AT 1.' WHEN I GOT TO RWY 1; I WAS LOOKING FOR LAHSO MARKINGS -- THERE AREN'T ANY. I CALLED GND AND SAID; 'I'M CONFUSED' ABOUT WHERE I SHOULD BE. AT NO TIME DID I ENTER RWY 1 -- I DID STOP AND HOLD SHORT. THERE IS; APPARENTLY; NO DESIGNATED POINT AT WHICH TO HOLD SHORT. THE TOWER EXPRESSED SOME CONCERN ABOUT MY POSITION; I DID NOT THINK THERE WAS ANY REASON FOR CONCERN. I WOULD SUGGEST; HOWEVER; THAT THERE BE SOME KIND OF HOLD SHORT MARKING OR SIGN AT LEAST UNTIL THE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED.CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED THAT HE WAS TAXIING DOWN RWY 14 AND IS SURE THAT HE STOPPED BEFORE CROSSING RWY 1/19. HOWEVER; THE TOWER WAS UNSURE ABOUT HIS STOPPING INTENTIONS. THERE WAS NO FURTHER PROBLEM ABOUT THE MISUNDERSTANDING; BUT THE RPTR SIMPLY COULD NOT CLEARLY IDENTIFY A POINT ON RWY 14/32 WHERE THE ACFT SHOULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.