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Attributes | |
ACN | 817176 |
Time | |
Date | 200812 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | other |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 817176 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 7700 flight time type : 6700 |
ASRS Report | 817175 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were cleared to runway 28. As we taxied out and started to enter taxiway right; a regional jet was proceeding southwest on taxiway B approaching taxiway right from our right. We slowed and then stopped as the rj made the left turn onto taxiway right nose-to-nose with us. Our ground frequency was too congested for me to get a radio call to anyone. I checked and the rj was taxiing with their landing light off and ours was still on. The rj continued without yielding making another left onto taxiway a. I was gravely concerned about an impact between the 2 aircraft. I finally got a radio call to ground and filed a verbal report with them. The rj was on the ground inbound frequency further complicating safe operations. The rj's wingtip passed dangerously close to us at an inappropriately high speed. Further; air carrier X and other airlines have not adopted FAA recommendations (should be mandatory) of using the taxi light during ground operations to show movement or intention to move. These should be mandatory sops. We did use our landing light appropriately and the rj did not. Further; different ground frequencies for aircraft taxiing in close proximity may be standard at ord; but it significantly degrades safe airport operations. Most congested airports do not use this procedure but instead use different frequencies geographically around the airport. So; lack of sops; lack of ATC mandatory taxiing procedures; ATC ground frequency procedures; and the rj's blatant disregard for safe operations (regardless of any clearance he might have had) all contributed to this incident. We were the only link that broke the chain of what could have been a major ground accident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 crew reports that a Regional Jet taxiing at a high speed with its landing lights off in freezing rain failed to slow or yield to them and so nearly collided on ORD taxiway 'R.'
Narrative: We were cleared to Runway 28. As we taxied out and started to enter Taxiway R; a Regional Jet was proceeding southwest on Taxiway B approaching Taxiway R from our right. We slowed and then stopped as the RJ made the left turn onto Taxiway R nose-to-nose with us. Our Ground frequency was too congested for me to get a radio call to anyone. I checked and the RJ was taxiing with their landing light off and ours was still on. The RJ continued without yielding making another left onto Taxiway A. I was gravely concerned about an impact between the 2 aircraft. I finally got a radio call to Ground and filed a verbal report with them. The RJ was on the Ground inbound frequency further complicating safe operations. The RJ's wingtip passed dangerously close to us at an inappropriately high speed. Further; Air Carrier X and other airlines have not adopted FAA recommendations (should be mandatory) of using the taxi light during ground operations to show movement or intention to move. These should be mandatory SOPs. We did use our landing light appropriately and the RJ did not. Further; different Ground frequencies for aircraft taxiing in close proximity may be standard at ORD; but it significantly degrades safe airport operations. Most congested airports do not use this procedure but instead use different frequencies geographically around the airport. So; lack of SOPs; lack of ATC mandatory taxiing procedures; ATC ground frequency procedures; and the RJ's blatant disregard for safe operations (regardless of any clearance he might have had) all contributed to this incident. We were the only link that broke the chain of what could have been a major ground accident.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.