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Attributes | |
ACN | 824045 |
Time | |
Date | 200902 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | EWR.Airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Single Pilot |
Qualification | Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 480 Flight Crew Total 2000 Flight Crew Type 600 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Other ATC Handoff Failure |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 3000 Vertical 100 |
Narrative:
On initial contact with teb tower; I requested transition southbound and handoff ewr landing ldj. I was cleared to maintain at or below 1;400 ft. I transition from teb tower and when on gsp southbound; controller advised of helicopter traffic at 900 ft. I responded traffic in sight maintaining visual separation; teb controller approved. I was asked to contact ewr tower. Ewr tower controller mentioned about the helicopter traffic which I responded traffic in sight maintaining visual separation; which ewr controller approved. Ewr tower controller mentioned that teb controller didn't arrange the handoff with approach. He mentioned that he will try to arrange; but to remain clear of the class B airspace. I was at 1;400 ft MSL and he asked me to maintain 1;000 ft. I maintained visual separation with the helicopter at all times. Ewr controller said that approach was not picking up the phone and that I needed to circumnavigate the class B airspace. He asked me to squawk VFR and frequency change. I did a very steep turn and remained clear of the class B and class D airspaces for teb and cdw. There is a corridor of 2.0 miles separation between the teb and cdw airspaces. I contacted cdw and asked for transition; which was granted. The cdw controller mentioned that teb called and said that next time I enter their airspace to contact them first. I mentioned that I was with teb and they didn't get the handoff with ewr; which I had to then turn around and circumnavigate. I feel that there is a hole in the system as the class B ceiling begins at 1;500 ft MSL. The teb controller didn't properly arrange the handoff perhaps because I was clear of class B. I was concerned for my safety and the safety of the people in the ground. I was trapped in this tiny airspace. I could not climb; descend; and/or turn due to the incoming helicopter. I did slow flight until the helicopter passed and began a 180 degree turn watching my radius and position in the GPS while maintaining visual separation with the helicopter.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 transitioning TEB and EWR Class D; voiced concern regarding ATC's failure to initiate proper inter facility handoff's; resulting in potential conflict with helicopter traffic and Class B incursion.
Narrative: On initial contact with TEB Tower; I requested transition southbound and handoff EWR landing LDJ. I was cleared to maintain at or below 1;400 FT. I transition from TEB Tower and when on GSP southbound; Controller advised of helicopter traffic at 900 FT. I responded traffic in sight maintaining visual separation; TEB Controller approved. I was asked to contact EWR Tower. EWR Tower Controller mentioned about the helicopter traffic which I responded traffic in sight maintaining visual separation; which EWR Controller approved. EWR Tower Controller mentioned that TEB Controller didn't arrange the handoff with Approach. He mentioned that he will try to arrange; but to remain clear of the Class B airspace. I was at 1;400 FT MSL and he asked me to maintain 1;000 FT. I maintained visual separation with the helicopter at all times. EWR Controller said that approach was not picking up the phone and that I needed to circumnavigate the Class B airspace. He asked me to squawk VFR and frequency change. I did a very steep turn and remained clear of the Class B and Class D airspaces for TEB and CDW. There is a corridor of 2.0 miles separation between the TEB and CDW airspaces. I contacted CDW and asked for transition; which was granted. The CDW Controller mentioned that TEB called and said that next time I enter their airspace to contact them first. I mentioned that I was with TEB and they didn't get the handoff with EWR; which I had to then turn around and circumnavigate. I feel that there is a hole in the system as the Class B ceiling begins at 1;500 FT MSL. The TEB Controller didn't properly arrange the handoff perhaps because I was clear of Class B. I was concerned for my safety and the safety of the people in the ground. I was trapped in this tiny airspace. I could not climb; descend; and/or turn due to the incoming helicopter. I did slow flight until the helicopter passed and began a 180 degree turn watching my radius and position in the GPS while maintaining visual separation with the helicopter.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.