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Attributes | |
ACN | 865794 |
Time | |
Date | 200912 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZAU.ARTCC |
State Reference | IL |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER/LR (CRJ200) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb Initial Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
Working lone rock sector when an aircraft departed crj inbound to msn looking for IFR clearance. Departed aircraft and gave him a code to squawk. Waited for good target on aircraft and never got one. Asked the aircraft to say position and altitude. As I requested this information the d-side started to coordinate with msn approach. The aircraft reported 6NM north of crj at 2;200 feet in a layer and requesting a climb. I was concerned about the mia in that area at 3;300 feet. I still did not have a good target. At that moment a controller came back to relieve me. I started my relief briefing and as I got to explaining the aircraft; I told the relief controller that he did not have a clearance yet; but that the d-side coordinated with msn non-radar and climbing to 5;000 feet. The d-side then said to me 'msn said climbing to 5;000 was approved and to keep him coming.' the relief controller then started to ask more questions and the situation became confusing and stressful. I then inadvertently climbed the aircraft to 5;000 feet. I then asked the aircraft to say his position and altitude again. He reported 28 NM southwest of msn out of 2;700 feet in an area with a 3;300 feet mia and in msn airspace. I had climbed an aircraft to 5;000 feet without a clearance due to poor communication and a relieving controller adding stress. My initial concern when the aircraft first departed was that I could not radar identify him because I didn't have a good target; he was approaching msn airspace and the mia unable to climb. The d-side never coordinated with me what msn had coordinated until in the middle of my relief brief and he never heard what the aircraft had said about being at 2;200 feet and unable to climb. Nor did the d-side or the relief controller take into consideration the mia. Recommendation; the correct thing to do would have been for me to ask the pilot if he could maintain his own terrain and obstruction clearance and then give him the clearance and climb him or ask him to contact msn approach for his clearance due to his position of being in their airspace and the mia. Also; to not start a relief briefing in the middle of trying to radar identify and coordinate non radar with another facility. Also; to make sure to coordinate all information to the d-side and from the d-side.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZAU Controller experienced an airspace and MIA violation when unable to identify an aircraft departing CRJ; the reporter alleging relief briefing caused confusion.
Narrative: Working Lone Rock Sector when an aircraft departed CRJ inbound to MSN looking for IFR clearance. Departed aircraft and gave him a code to squawk. Waited for good target on aircraft and never got one. Asked the aircraft to say position and altitude. As I requested this information the D-side started to coordinate with MSN approach. The aircraft reported 6NM north of CRJ at 2;200 feet in a layer and requesting a climb. I was concerned about the MIA in that area at 3;300 feet. I still did not have a good target. At that moment a Controller came back to relieve me. I started my relief briefing and as I got to explaining the aircraft; I told the relief Controller that he did not have a clearance yet; but that the D-side coordinated with MSN non-radar and climbing to 5;000 feet. The D-side then said to me 'MSN said climbing to 5;000 was approved and to keep him coming.' The relief Controller then started to ask more questions and the situation became confusing and stressful. I then inadvertently climbed the aircraft to 5;000 feet. I then asked the aircraft to say his position and altitude again. He reported 28 NM Southwest of MSN out of 2;700 feet in an area with a 3;300 feet MIA and in MSN airspace. I had climbed an aircraft to 5;000 feet without a clearance due to poor communication and a relieving Controller adding stress. My initial concern when the aircraft first departed was that I could not Radar identify him because I didn't have a good target; he was approaching MSN airspace and the MIA unable to climb. The D-side never coordinated with me what MSN had coordinated until in the middle of my relief brief and he never heard what the aircraft had said about being at 2;200 feet and unable to climb. Nor did the D-side or the relief Controller take into consideration the MIA. Recommendation; the correct thing to do would have been for me to ask the pilot if he could maintain his own terrain and obstruction clearance and then give him the clearance and climb him or ask him to contact MSN approach for his clearance due to his position of being in their airspace and the MIA. Also; to not start a relief briefing in the middle of trying to Radar identify and coordinate non radar with another facility. Also; to make sure to coordinate all information to the D-side and from the D-side.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.