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Attributes | |
ACN | 87062 |
Time | |
Date | 198805 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jln |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | controller military : 6 controller non radar : 5 controller radar : 5 flight time last 90 days : 255 flight time total : 3803 flight time type : 1676 |
ASRS Report | 87062 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 20 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was the captain of flight from mcl to jln. We were on a IFR flight plan with kansas city center. At about 35 miles from the airport we requested lower, and center gave us a descent to 4000'. We then descended from 11000' to 4000'. When we were 25 miles from the airport we heard center talking to a small transport which was 6 miles from the airport. The small transport then cancelled his clearance and center advised us that the small transport was going to land on 13. When we were 20 miles from joplin airport we called center, said we had the joplin airport in sight. We were then cleared for a visual approach to the joplin airport. Then when we were about 12 miles from the airport we cancelled our IFR flight plan with kansas city center. Next we switched our radios to 119.8 and reported on the CTAF that we were 10 miles north west of the airport on a straight in final for runway 13. We kept our radio on 119.8 and heard no other aircraft call. When we were 5 miles out, still on final approach we called again, advising traffic that we were on a five mile final for runway 13. We then called our position once more on a one mile final. All this time we did not hear any other aircraft on the frequency, nor did we see any aircraft. My first officer and I both thought the small transport must have landed and taxied in already. However, on our landing rollout a passenger saw the jet fly over us from left to right. A company agent also saw the small transport fly over us. I was later advised that the small transport flew approximately 20' over us. I was also advised that instead of being on the CTAF the small transport was talking to FBO on 122.95. FBO advised the small transport twice that he should be on 119.8, the CTAF. After we taxied to the gate we found out what had happened, so we left our batteries on, along with the radios. I was hoping to talk to the small transport to find out just what happened. The first time my first officer and I saw the small transport was when he returned to land again. We still had our radios on and we hadn't heard the small transport report any of his positions, not even after landing and clearing the runway. To avoid this near fatality in the future, joplin, mo must get at least a person in the tower to run an advisory frequency to aircraft. It would be better yet if they had a full-time control tower. I also feel that the pilot of the small transport that almost hit us should not be flying. He has broken the far's of flight planning in not knowing what radio frequency he is supposed to be on. Today was just close.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NON TWR ARPT, ACFT EXECUTED GO-AROUND BY DIRECTLY OVERFLYING SMT EXITING THE RWY.
Narrative: I WAS THE CAPT OF FLT FROM MCL TO JLN. WE WERE ON A IFR FLT PLAN WITH KANSAS CITY CENTER. AT ABOUT 35 MILES FROM THE ARPT WE REQUESTED LOWER, AND CENTER GAVE US A DESCENT TO 4000'. WE THEN DESCENDED FROM 11000' TO 4000'. WHEN WE WERE 25 MILES FROM THE ARPT WE HEARD CENTER TALKING TO A SMT WHICH WAS 6 MILES FROM THE ARPT. THE SMT THEN CANCELLED HIS CLRNC AND CENTER ADVISED US THAT THE SMT WAS GOING TO LAND ON 13. WHEN WE WERE 20 MILES FROM JOPLIN ARPT WE CALLED CENTER, SAID WE HAD THE JOPLIN ARPT IN SIGHT. WE WERE THEN CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH TO THE JOPLIN ARPT. THEN WHEN WE WERE ABOUT 12 MILES FROM THE ARPT WE CANCELLED OUR IFR FLT PLAN WITH KANSAS CITY CENTER. NEXT WE SWITCHED OUR RADIOS TO 119.8 AND REPORTED ON THE CTAF THAT WE WERE 10 MILES NORTH WEST OF THE ARPT ON A STRAIGHT IN FINAL FOR RWY 13. WE KEPT OUR RADIO ON 119.8 AND HEARD NO OTHER ACFT CALL. WHEN WE WERE 5 MILES OUT, STILL ON FINAL APCH WE CALLED AGAIN, ADVISING TFC THAT WE WERE ON A FIVE MILE FINAL FOR RWY 13. WE THEN CALLED OUR POSITION ONCE MORE ON A ONE MILE FINAL. ALL THIS TIME WE DID NOT HEAR ANY OTHER ACFT ON THE FREQ, NOR DID WE SEE ANY ACFT. MY FIRST OFFICER AND I BOTH THOUGHT THE SMT MUST HAVE LANDED AND TAXIED IN ALREADY. HOWEVER, ON OUR LNDG ROLLOUT A PASSENGER SAW THE JET FLY OVER US FROM LEFT TO RIGHT. A COMPANY AGENT ALSO SAW THE SMT FLY OVER US. I WAS LATER ADVISED THAT THE SMT FLEW APPROX 20' OVER US. I WAS ALSO ADVISED THAT INSTEAD OF BEING ON THE CTAF THE SMT WAS TALKING TO FBO ON 122.95. FBO ADVISED THE SMT TWICE THAT HE SHOULD BE ON 119.8, THE CTAF. AFTER WE TAXIED TO THE GATE WE FOUND OUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED, SO WE LEFT OUR BATTERIES ON, ALONG WITH THE RADIOS. I WAS HOPING TO TALK TO THE SMT TO FIND OUT JUST WHAT HAPPENED. THE FIRST TIME MY F/O AND I SAW THE SMT WAS WHEN HE RETURNED TO LAND AGAIN. WE STILL HAD OUR RADIOS ON AND WE HADN'T HEARD THE SMT REPORT ANY OF HIS POSITIONS, NOT EVEN AFTER LNDG AND CLEARING THE RWY. TO AVOID THIS NEAR FATALITY IN THE FUTURE, JOPLIN, MO MUST GET AT LEAST A PERSON IN THE TWR TO RUN AN ADVISORY FREQ TO ACFT. IT WOULD BE BETTER YET IF THEY HAD A FULL-TIME CTL TWR. I ALSO FEEL THAT THE PLT OF THE SMT THAT ALMOST HIT US SHOULD NOT BE FLYING. HE HAS BROKEN THE FAR'S OF FLT PLANNING IN NOT KNOWING WHAT RADIO FREQ HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON. TODAY WAS JUST CLOSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.