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Attributes | |
ACN | 90175 |
Time | |
Date | 198806 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 16000 |
ASRS Report | 90175 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 19500 flight time type : 4800 |
ASRS Report | 89952 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On ground frequency 121.75 we were given clearance to take the outer to the stub to the runway 9R parallel to follow a widebody transport. When the widebody transport gets to the runway 32L parallel and turns right we are to turn left, hold short of runway 9R and switch to tower 120.75. We heard 'xyz cross 9R west/O delay and go to point 9 on the other side.' the clearance to cross was acknowledged by the first officer by using the full call sign of air carrier a xyz. We were still parked on the runway 9R parallel prior to the corner and it took at least 30 seconds or more to reach the runway. Tower did not question our acknowledgement. The runways in use for landing were runway 4R and runway 9R. After crossing runway 9R we were told that we didn't have clearance to cross and that the clearance was for air carrier B xyz. He also said that the tower didn't have a strip on us. Apparently air carrier B xyz landed on runway 4R and was holding short of runway 9R on the high speed turnoff at runway 4R. We were not aware that there was an air carrier B xyz up to this point. We were the only xyz that had been on the frequencys, so when tower called xyz we acknowledged, using our complete call sign of air carrier a xyz. Ground told air carrier B xyz that his xmissions had been blocked by another aircraft, apparently us, and gave him instructions to taxi to the gate. Supplemental information from acn 90077: we were not aware that there was an air carrier B xyz as we were the only xyz on that frequency up to that time. So, when the tower called, we acknowledged using our complete call sign of air carrier a xyb. Apparently tower was also not aware that he had 2 flight number aircraft holding short of the same runway. Had he known and used the full air carrier B xyz air carrier B, or had we been warned there were 2 xyz's on the same frequency, the problem could have been avoided.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR A LGT WITH SAME CALL SIGN AS ACR B CROSSED RWY ON CLRNC FOR ACR B.
Narrative: ON GND FREQ 121.75 WE WERE GIVEN CLRNC TO TAKE THE OUTER TO THE STUB TO THE RWY 9R PARALLEL TO FOLLOW A WDB. WHEN THE WDB GETS TO THE RWY 32L PARALLEL AND TURNS RIGHT WE ARE TO TURN LEFT, HOLD SHORT OF RWY 9R AND SWITCH TO TWR 120.75. WE HEARD 'XYZ CROSS 9R W/O DELAY AND GO TO POINT 9 ON THE OTHER SIDE.' THE CLRNC TO CROSS WAS ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE F/O BY USING THE FULL CALL SIGN OF ACR A XYZ. WE WERE STILL PARKED ON THE RWY 9R PARALLEL PRIOR TO THE CORNER AND IT TOOK AT LEAST 30 SECS OR MORE TO REACH THE RWY. TWR DID NOT QUESTION OUR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. THE RWYS IN USE FOR LNDG WERE RWY 4R AND RWY 9R. AFTER XING RWY 9R WE WERE TOLD THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE CLRNC TO CROSS AND THAT THE CLRNC WAS FOR ACR B XYZ. HE ALSO SAID THAT THE TWR DIDN'T HAVE A STRIP ON US. APPARENTLY ACR B XYZ LANDED ON RWY 4R AND WAS HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 9R ON THE HIGH SPEED TURNOFF AT RWY 4R. WE WERE NOT AWARE THAT THERE WAS AN ACR B XYZ UP TO THIS POINT. WE WERE THE ONLY XYZ THAT HAD BEEN ON THE FREQS, SO WHEN TWR CALLED XYZ WE ACKNOWLEDGED, USING OUR COMPLETE CALL SIGN OF ACR A XYZ. GND TOLD ACR B XYZ THAT HIS XMISSIONS HAD BEEN BLOCKED BY ANOTHER ACFT, APPARENTLY US, AND GAVE HIM INSTRUCTIONS TO TAXI TO THE GATE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 90077: WE WERE NOT AWARE THAT THERE WAS AN ACR B XYZ AS WE WERE THE ONLY XYZ ON THAT FREQ UP TO THAT TIME. SO, WHEN THE TWR CALLED, WE ACKNOWLEDGED USING OUR COMPLETE CALL SIGN OF ACR A XYB. APPARENTLY TWR WAS ALSO NOT AWARE THAT HE HAD 2 FLT NUMBER ACFT HOLDING SHORT OF THE SAME RWY. HAD HE KNOWN AND USED THE FULL ACR B XYZ ACR B, OR HAD WE BEEN WARNED THERE WERE 2 XYZ'S ON THE SAME FREQ, THE PROB COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.