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Attributes | |
ACN | 927088 |
Time | |
Date | 201101 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | NYL.Airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport High Wing 2 Turboprop Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Military 3 Flight Crew Last 90 Days 120 Flight Crew Total 6000 Flight Crew Type 120 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
First officer checked in with nyl approach. We were told to expect a visual approach and given descent to 3;000 ft. Approaching bza VOR; approach gave us a further descent to 2;700 ft and asked if we had the airport in sight. We were IMC and reported such. Approach asked if we wanted to execute the VOR runway 17; circle runway 8. We agreed that would work and were cleared for the approach at less than 2 NM from bza (the IAF). In our rush to set up for the approach and turn outbound; we both looked at the chart for the VOR/DME runway 17 (13-1); which was opposite the nyl 10-9 in both of our chart binders. We turned outbound and were VMC almost immediately (but now pointed away from the airport). About 4 NM north of bza; I commented that the terrain seemed high and; after looking a the plate again; I added that the procedure turn altitude was supposed to be 4;000 ft. At about this time approach advised that we were entering and area of rising terrain and asked if we were flying the VOR/DME or the VOR. We immediately fessed up to our mistake and approach gave us a right turn direct to bza for the remainder of the VOR approach. We saw the airport about over bza; advised approach; and were cleared for a visual approach to runway 8. Remainder of the approach and landing were normal.I believe this error could have been avoided in a couple of ways. Nyl approach should not have cleared us for an approach at less than 2 NM from the IAF after telling us to expect a visual approach. That said; I should have refused the clearance and asked for vectors while we set up the flight deck and briefed the approach. This would have given us a chance to realize we were looking at the wrong chart. Furthermore; since VMC conditions prevailed north and west of nyl; we would have been able to accept a visual approach shortly after passing bza westbound; making the VOR approach unnecessary.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Turboprop flight crew is cleared for the VOR Runway 17 approach to NYL two miles from BZA; after initially being given descent to 2;700 FT told to expect a visual approach. The crew inadvertently selects the VOR DME Runway 17 approach which has a procedure turn altitude of 4;000 FT. ATC and the Captain simultaneously detect the error and a visual approach ensues.
Narrative: First Officer checked in with NYL Approach. We were told to expect a visual approach and given descent to 3;000 FT. Approaching BZA VOR; Approach gave us a further descent to 2;700 FT and asked if we had the airport in sight. We were IMC and reported such. Approach asked if we wanted to execute the VOR Runway 17; circle Runway 8. We agreed that would work and were cleared for the approach at less than 2 NM from BZA (the IAF). In our rush to set up for the approach and turn outbound; we both looked at the chart for the VOR/DME Runway 17 (13-1); which was opposite the NYL 10-9 in both of our chart binders. We turned outbound and were VMC almost immediately (but now pointed away from the airport). About 4 NM north of BZA; I commented that the terrain seemed high and; after looking a the plate again; I added that the procedure turn altitude was supposed to be 4;000 FT. At about this time Approach advised that we were entering and area of rising terrain and asked if we were flying the VOR/DME or the VOR. We immediately fessed up to our mistake and Approach gave us a right turn direct to BZA for the remainder of the VOR approach. We saw the airport about over BZA; advised Approach; and were cleared for a visual approach to Runway 8. Remainder of the approach and landing were normal.I believe this error could have been avoided in a couple of ways. NYL Approach should not have cleared us for an approach at less than 2 NM from the IAF after telling us to expect a visual approach. That said; I should have refused the clearance and asked for vectors while we set up the flight deck and briefed the approach. This would have given us a chance to realize we were looking at the wrong chart. Furthermore; since VMC conditions prevailed north and west of NYL; we would have been able to accept a visual approach shortly after passing BZA westbound; making the VOR approach unnecessary.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.