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Attributes | |
ACN | 97539 |
Time | |
Date | 198810 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tpa |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 5100 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 97539 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I flew most of the month with this particular captain. He consistently flew a lower than normal 3 degree G/south to the runway. After several legs of flying with this captain, I simply accepted the fact that he flew a lower than normal approach (not much else I could do). Landing in tpa the captain was flying and was again low on the approach. He had no problem with his previous lndgs and I felt this would be no different as with his previous lndgs, until the T/D. The bottom fell out and we touched down on an approach light. No aircraft damage or passenger injuries were experienced. A definite case of non-standard procedure by the PIC whose day had come. I also see a first officer who should have protested the lower than standard approachs from the beginning. The first officer is a safety pilot and all too often may allow a captain to perform a non standard procedure (many times the perception may be that it is the captain's aircraft). Through flight deck management, initial and recurrent training, the first officer must be made to realize the importance of bringing non standard procedures to the attention of the captain.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG LNDG UNDERSHOT.
Narrative: I FLEW MOST OF THE MONTH WITH THIS PARTICULAR CAPT. HE CONSISTENTLY FLEW A LOWER THAN NORMAL 3 DEG G/S TO THE RWY. AFTER SEVERAL LEGS OF FLYING WITH THIS CAPT, I SIMPLY ACCEPTED THE FACT THAT HE FLEW A LOWER THAN NORMAL APCH (NOT MUCH ELSE I COULD DO). LNDG IN TPA THE CAPT WAS FLYING AND WAS AGAIN LOW ON THE APCH. HE HAD NO PROB WITH HIS PREVIOUS LNDGS AND I FELT THIS WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT AS WITH HIS PREVIOUS LNDGS, UNTIL THE T/D. THE BOTTOM FELL OUT AND WE TOUCHED DOWN ON AN APCH LIGHT. NO ACFT DAMAGE OR PAX INJURIES WERE EXPERIENCED. A DEFINITE CASE OF NON-STANDARD PROC BY THE PIC WHOSE DAY HAD COME. I ALSO SEE A F/O WHO SHOULD HAVE PROTESTED THE LOWER THAN STANDARD APCHS FROM THE BEGINNING. THE F/O IS A SAFETY PLT AND ALL TOO OFTEN MAY ALLOW A CAPT TO PERFORM A NON STANDARD PROC (MANY TIMES THE PERCEPTION MAY BE THAT IT IS THE CAPT'S ACFT). THROUGH FLT DECK MGMNT, INITIAL AND RECURRENT TRNING, THE F/O MUST BE MADE TO REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF BRINGING NON STANDARD PROCS TO THE ATTN OF THE CAPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.