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Attributes | |
ACN | 98570 |
Time | |
Date | 198811 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bza |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla tower : cno |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : zla |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 270 |
ASRS Report | 98570 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 98980 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | aircraft : equipment problem dissipated |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
The trip was a regularly scheduled passenger flight between san diego and phoenix. Over imperial VOR at FL290, ZLA gave us a vector for spacing on traffic. Prior to bard VOR we were asked to change frequencys to ZAB. Over bard the center said we were 6 mi south of course and in a restr area. He stated we were supposed to be on the arwy and to make an immediate turn to 020 degrees. I apologized and attempted to explain that we did not acknowledge a change in our clearance. Prior to reaching 020 degrees in my turn I crossed the arwy 075 degree right at 10 DME. The controller was now upset that I went through the arwy. We were not told to intercept, only to turn to 020 degrees. However, we did join the arwy at 20 mi east of bard. There was 1 major contributing factor: wind--120 KTS from the south. The problem arose because of poor communications and misunderstandings.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INTRAFAC COORD NOT COMPLETED AFTER FIRST CTLR VECTORED ACR MLG OFF ARWY FOR SPACING. THE SECOND CTLR VECTORED THE ACFT AWAY FROM MEXICAN AIRSPACE AND THROUGH THE AIRWAY.
Narrative: THE TRIP WAS A REGULARLY SCHEDULED PAX FLT BTWN SAN DIEGO AND PHOENIX. OVER IMPERIAL VOR AT FL290, ZLA GAVE US A VECTOR FOR SPACING ON TFC. PRIOR TO BARD VOR WE WERE ASKED TO CHANGE FREQS TO ZAB. OVER BARD THE CENTER SAID WE WERE 6 MI S OF COURSE AND IN A RESTR AREA. HE STATED WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE ARWY AND TO MAKE AN IMMEDIATE TURN TO 020 DEGS. I APOLOGIZED AND ATTEMPTED TO EXPLAIN THAT WE DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGE A CHANGE IN OUR CLRNC. PRIOR TO REACHING 020 DEGS IN MY TURN I CROSSED THE ARWY 075 DEG R AT 10 DME. THE CTLR WAS NOW UPSET THAT I WENT THROUGH THE ARWY. WE WERE NOT TOLD TO INTERCEPT, ONLY TO TURN TO 020 DEGS. HOWEVER, WE DID JOIN THE ARWY AT 20 MI E OF BARD. THERE WAS 1 MAJOR CONTRIBUTING FACTOR: WIND--120 KTS FROM THE S. THE PROB AROSE BECAUSE OF POOR COMS AND MISUNDERSTANDINGS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.