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Attributes | |
ACN | 98573 |
Time | |
Date | 198811 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cno |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 2700 flight time type : 10 |
ASRS Report | 98573 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe conflict : ground critical other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
25 hour taildragger pilot-licensed, getting instruction in tail draggers (his own) on landing roll student started a gradual left turn after a straight landing. Aircraft made sudden right turn. I yelled at him to get off brakes, he said he wasn't on them. I got the aircraft going straight, right at an small aircraft in position and hold on other runway. As the a/C went straight for about a 2 count I added full power trying to fly out of it. As we headed for the small aircraft I knew we couldn't hit it. I don't know if I subconsciously veered to miss the small aircraft or if it would have ground looped anyway. We came to rest on the other runway west/a broken left gear, bent wing and elevator. I had no brake pedals on my side of aircraft. The next day the owner came in and said that the aircraft didn't drive in the ground properly when he came to pick me up. Upon inspection of the aircraft tailwheel the internal locking mechanism for steering is in fact broken. Without brakes on my side of the aircraft and a busted steering mechanism (if he'd said something) I would not have flown.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA SMA GROUND LOOPED AND ALMOST HIT A GA SMA IN POSITION ON MULTIPLE INTERSECTING RWY.
Narrative: 25 HR TAILDRAGGER PLT-LICENSED, GETTING INSTRUCTION IN TAIL DRAGGERS (HIS OWN) ON LNDG ROLL STUDENT STARTED A GRADUAL LEFT TURN AFTER A STRAIGHT LNDG. ACFT MADE SUDDEN RIGHT TURN. I YELLED AT HIM TO GET OFF BRAKES, HE SAID HE WASN'T ON THEM. I GOT THE ACFT GOING STRAIGHT, RIGHT AT AN SMA IN POSITION AND HOLD ON OTHER RWY. AS THE A/C WENT STRAIGHT FOR ABOUT A 2 COUNT I ADDED FULL POWER TRYING TO FLY OUT OF IT. AS WE HEADED FOR THE SMA I KNEW WE COULDN'T HIT IT. I DON'T KNOW IF I SUBCONSCIOUSLY VEERED TO MISS THE SMA OR IF IT WOULD HAVE GND LOOPED ANYWAY. WE CAME TO REST ON THE OTHER RWY W/A BROKEN LEFT GEAR, BENT WING AND ELEVATOR. I HAD NO BRAKE PEDALS ON MY SIDE OF ACFT. THE NEXT DAY THE OWNER CAME IN AND SAID THAT THE ACFT DIDN'T DRIVE IN THE GND PROPERLY WHEN HE CAME TO PICK ME UP. UPON INSPECTION OF THE ACFT TAILWHEEL THE INTERNAL LOCKING MECHANISM FOR STEERING IS IN FACT BROKEN. WITHOUT BRAKES ON MY SIDE OF THE ACFT AND A BUSTED STEERING MECHANISM (IF HE'D SAID SOMETHING) I WOULD NOT HAVE FLOWN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.