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Attributes | |
ACN | 98559 |
Time | |
Date | 198811 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : den |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 98559 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Unsafe parallel visual approaches to runway 26L/right den. Approach control spaces you on companion traffic while you are in base leg, clears you for parallel visuals without your concurrence, and tells you not to pass the other aircraft which has the ability to fly slower by 10-15 KTS. You are now forced to fly night formation (less than 900' apart) without briefing or training on other pilots whose ability you know nothing of or going around when you have done nothing wrong. If nothing else, this is a gross violation of the sterile cockpit and one large distraction to val SOP's. Sooner or later someone is going to lose an engine and I don't want to be next to a single engine go around.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMPLAINS OF PARALLEL VISUAL APCH DEN.
Narrative: UNSAFE PARALLEL VISUAL APPROACHES TO RWY 26L/R DEN. APCH CTL SPACES YOU ON COMPANION TFC WHILE YOU ARE IN BASE LEG, CLEARS YOU FOR PARALLEL VISUALS WITHOUT YOUR CONCURRENCE, AND TELLS YOU NOT TO PASS THE OTHER ACFT WHICH HAS THE ABILITY TO FLY SLOWER BY 10-15 KTS. YOU ARE NOW FORCED TO FLY NIGHT FORMATION (LESS THAN 900' APART) WITHOUT BRIEFING OR TRAINING ON OTHER PLTS WHOSE ABILITY YOU KNOW NOTHING OF OR GOING AROUND WHEN YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG. IF NOTHING ELSE, THIS IS A GROSS VIOLATION OF THE STERILE COCKPIT AND ONE LARGE DISTR TO VAL SOP'S. SOONER OR LATER SOMEONE IS GOING TO LOSE AN ENGINE AND I DON'T WANT TO BE NEXT TO A SINGLE ENGINE GO AROUND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.