Small aircraft on VFR departure has near midair collision with small aircraft entering the air traff...

Attributes
ACN	101702
Time
Date	198901
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ptk
State Reference	MI
Altitude	msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : ptk
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	VFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 280 flight time type : 150
ASRS Report	101702
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : cfi
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 200 vertical : 300
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

Myself and a cfii took off from ptk runway 27L mid afternoon. We had received clearance from tower for departure and remained on frequency turning southwest after takeoff as cleared by tower. A few mins into the flight I saw an small aircraft Y a little low, but coming at us. I turned up and to the right. The other plane turned right and down to the right. We missed and the small aircraft Y came on and asked the tower if they knew we were out there. The tower replied yes. The tower knew where both of us were and did not make any reports to either of us. It was clear to all that fortunately both pilots were watching in order to avoid. The voice at the tower was one I was unfamiliar with, possibly training was going on. Either way, the tower should have reported us to each other.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SMA ON VFR DEP HAS NMAC WITH SMA ENTERING THE ATA.

Narrative: MYSELF AND A CFII TOOK OFF FROM PTK RWY 27L MID AFTERNOON. WE HAD RECEIVED CLRNC FROM TWR FOR DEP AND REMAINED ON FREQ TURNING SW AFTER TKOF AS CLRED BY TWR. A FEW MINS INTO THE FLT I SAW AN SMA Y A LITTLE LOW, BUT COMING AT US. I TURNED UP AND TO THE RIGHT. THE OTHER PLANE TURNED RIGHT AND DOWN TO THE RIGHT. WE MISSED AND THE SMA Y CAME ON AND ASKED THE TWR IF THEY KNEW WE WERE OUT THERE. THE TWR REPLIED YES. THE TWR KNEW WHERE BOTH OF US WERE AND DID NOT MAKE ANY RPTS TO EITHER OF US. IT WAS CLR TO ALL THAT FORTUNATELY BOTH PLTS WERE WATCHING IN ORDER TO AVOID. THE VOICE AT THE TWR WAS ONE I WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH, POSSIBLY TRNING WAS GOING ON. EITHER WAY, THE TWR SHOULD HAVE RPTED US TO EACH OTHER.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Small aircraft on VFR departure has near midair collision with small aircraft entering the air traffic area.