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Attributes | |
ACN | 118147 |
Time | |
Date | 198907 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : isp |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 400 agl bound upper : 600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : isp artcc : zla |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 118147 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While on ILS final to 24 at isp (offset localizer) a traffic advisory of a light aircraft at 1 O'clock on right downwind, no factor, was issued by tower. The aircraft B was instructed to look for my aircraft a and to turn final behind us. At approximately 600' my copilot sighted the light aircraft above us to our right, descending on an intercept heading facing away from us (apparently on final approach). Because the localizer to runway 24 is offset, I believe we were able to see the light aircraft soon enough. WX at the time was partially obscured, 4000' scattered, visibility 2-3 mi. Evasive action was to duck under the G/south and fly level to reintercept at about 300-400' acl. It wasn't necessary to turn and we passed underneath by about 200'. We landed normally after reintercepting the G/south. The other pilot told tower that he thought we had passed him, so he turned on final. Visibility was a major contributing factor to this incident. A sharp-eyed copilot and an offset localizer gave me enough time and room to take mild evasive action to avoid a collision.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF SMA HD NMAC WITH MLG ON APCH TO ISP IN REDUCED VISIBILITY.
Narrative: WHILE ON ILS FINAL TO 24 AT ISP (OFFSET LOC) A TFC ADVISORY OF A LIGHT ACFT AT 1 O'CLOCK ON RIGHT DOWNWIND, NO FACTOR, WAS ISSUED BY TWR. THE ACFT B WAS INSTRUCTED TO LOOK FOR MY ACFT A AND TO TURN FINAL BEHIND US. AT APPROX 600' MY COPLT SIGHTED THE LIGHT ACFT ABOVE US TO OUR RIGHT, DSNDING ON AN INTERCEPT HDG FACING AWAY FROM US (APPARENTLY ON FINAL APCH). BECAUSE THE LOC TO RWY 24 IS OFFSET, I BELIEVE WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THE LIGHT ACFT SOON ENOUGH. WX AT THE TIME WAS PARTIALLY OBSCURED, 4000' SCATTERED, VISIBILITY 2-3 MI. EVASIVE ACTION WAS TO DUCK UNDER THE G/S AND FLY LEVEL TO REINTERCEPT AT ABOUT 300-400' ACL. IT WASN'T NECESSARY TO TURN AND WE PASSED UNDERNEATH BY ABOUT 200'. WE LANDED NORMALLY AFTER REINTERCEPTING THE G/S. THE OTHER PLT TOLD TWR THAT HE THOUGHT WE HAD PASSED HIM, SO HE TURNED ON FINAL. VISIBILITY WAS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THIS INCIDENT. A SHARP-EYED COPLT AND AN OFFSET LOC GAVE ME ENOUGH TIME AND ROOM TO TAKE MILD EVASIVE ACTION TO AVOID A COLLISION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.