<< >> NASA ASRS Report 122463, September 1989

Flight crew of large transport made CAT ii approach to roc. After the fact flight crew noted a NOTAM saying CAT ii not available.

Attributes
ACN	122463
Time
Date	198909
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	0001 To 0600
Place
Locale Reference	airport : roc
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : lga
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	descent : approach landing other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : second officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 2300 flight time type : 240
ASRS Report	122463
Events
Anomaly	inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation
Situations
Airport	other physical facility

Narrative:

In nearing airport, approach asked us what we needed to shoot approach due to fog. Captain replied '1200 RVR.' approach said currently at roc it was, '1400 RVR...what are your intentions?' captain replied, 'we will shoot approach.' we were then cleared for ILS runway 4 approach. When handed off to tower, same response. We were cleared for the approach. Approach conducted, non eventful, all systems 4.0. Later upon checking WX and NOTAMS again, it was noted that runway 4 ILS CAT ii north/a.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLT CREW OF LGT MADE CAT II APCH TO ROC. AFTER THE FACT FLT CREW NOTED A NOTAM SAYING CAT II NOT AVAILABLE.

Narrative: IN NEARING ARPT, APCH ASKED US WHAT WE NEEDED TO SHOOT APCH DUE TO FOG. CAPT REPLIED '1200 RVR.' APCH SAID CURRENTLY AT ROC IT WAS, '1400 RVR...WHAT ARE YOUR INTENTIONS?' CAPT REPLIED, 'WE WILL SHOOT APCH.' WE WERE THEN CLRED FOR ILS RWY 4 APCH. WHEN HANDED OFF TO TWR, SAME RESPONSE. WE WERE CLRED FOR THE APCH. APCH CONDUCTED, NON EVENTFUL, ALL SYSTEMS 4.0. LATER UPON CHKING WX AND NOTAMS AGAIN, IT WAS NOTED THAT RWY 4 ILS CAT II N/A.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.