 |
37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
High minimum captain made several apches and missed approach prior to diverting. Cockpit management and coordination apparent issues.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 123087 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198909 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 500 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : lga |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 10200 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 123087 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
| ASRS Report | 123084 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Weather |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
En route iad-lga at FL210 was in and out of clouds. Strong easterly to southerly wing with some up- and downdrafts, airspeed deviated about 20 KTS. WX at destination 500 overcast 2 1/2 rw-F. Captain is on high minimum. This means adding 100' to decision height and on this approach having 6000 RVR. Received poor intercept heading due to strong wings. Was high when intercepting localizer but was able to get down and fly a stabilized approach. No runway at decision height so went around. Tried twice more with 2 more go arounds, then diverted to ewr and landed. WX went down at ewr after landing. Good that I added enough additional fuel so that even after 3 missed apches I had enough fuel to go to original alternate, pit if necessary. Supplemental information from acn 123084: another air carrier pilot occupied one jump seat and an FAA air carrier inspector occupied the second jump seat. The captain was restr to high minimums, having accumulated less than 100 hours PIC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HIGH MINIMUM CAPT MADE SEVERAL APCHES AND MISSED APCH PRIOR TO DIVERTING. COCKPIT MANAGEMENT AND COORD APPARENT ISSUES.
Narrative: ENRTE IAD-LGA AT FL210 WAS IN AND OUT OF CLOUDS. STRONG EASTERLY TO SOUTHERLY WING WITH SOME UP- AND DOWNDRAFTS, AIRSPEED DEVIATED ABOUT 20 KTS. WX AT DEST 500 OVERCAST 2 1/2 RW-F. CAPT IS ON HIGH MINIMUM. THIS MEANS ADDING 100' TO DECISION HEIGHT AND ON THIS APCH HAVING 6000 RVR. RECEIVED POOR INTERCEPT HDG DUE TO STRONG WINGS. WAS HIGH WHEN INTERCEPTING LOC BUT WAS ABLE TO GET DOWN AND FLY A STABILIZED APCH. NO RWY AT DECISION HEIGHT SO WENT AROUND. TRIED TWICE MORE WITH 2 MORE GO AROUNDS, THEN DIVERTED TO EWR AND LANDED. WX WENT DOWN AT EWR AFTER LNDG. GOOD THAT I ADDED ENOUGH ADDITIONAL FUEL SO THAT EVEN AFTER 3 MISSED APCHES I HAD ENOUGH FUEL TO GO TO ORIGINAL ALTERNATE, PIT IF NECESSARY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION FROM ACN 123084: ANOTHER AIR CARRIER PLT OCCUPIED ONE JUMP SEAT AND AN FAA AIR CARRIER INSPECTOR OCCUPIED THE SECOND JUMP SEAT. THE CAPT WAS RESTR TO HIGH MINIMUMS, HAVING ACCUMULATED LESS THAN 100 HRS PIC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.