37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 124425 |
Time | |
Date | 198910 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ocn |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sna |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 1300 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 124425 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
I received an abbreviated briefing from san diego FSS. I did not ask for NOTAMS nor was I informed of any. I flew VFR on V23 from myf to 10 mi north of ocn. I called coast approach 12 mi northwest of ocn for flight following. I was informed that I was in a restr area (R-2533) and to climb to 5000' MSL to leave it. Then I was told I was almost out of it and to remain at 4500 MSL and to continue on course. R-2533 is published to restrict airspace from the surface to 2000 MSL and is controled by coast TRACON. On this day for a few hours, R-2533 was raised to 5000 MSL for unknown reasons. I strongly feel FSS should be required to give any NOTAMS along route of flight regardless of the briefing. Also, there should be notification by mail from the local FAA office stating such events.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF SMA ALLEGEDLY ENTERED RESTRICTED AIRSPACE.
Narrative: I RECEIVED AN ABBREVIATED BRIEFING FROM SAN DIEGO FSS. I DID NOT ASK FOR NOTAMS NOR WAS I INFORMED OF ANY. I FLEW VFR ON V23 FROM MYF TO 10 MI N OF OCN. I CALLED COAST APCH 12 MI NW OF OCN FOR FLT FOLLOWING. I WAS INFORMED THAT I WAS IN A RESTR AREA (R-2533) AND TO CLIMB TO 5000' MSL TO LEAVE IT. THEN I WAS TOLD I WAS ALMOST OUT OF IT AND TO REMAIN AT 4500 MSL AND TO CONTINUE ON COURSE. R-2533 IS PUBLISHED TO RESTRICT AIRSPACE FROM THE SURFACE TO 2000 MSL AND IS CTLED BY COAST TRACON. ON THIS DAY FOR A FEW HRS, R-2533 WAS RAISED TO 5000 MSL FOR UNKNOWN REASONS. I STRONGLY FEEL FSS SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO GIVE ANY NOTAMS ALONG ROUTE OF FLT REGARDLESS OF THE BRIEFING. ALSO, THERE SHOULD BE NOTIFICATION BY MAIL FROM THE LCL FAA OFFICE STATING SUCH EVENTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.