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Attributes | |
ACN | 136468 |
Time | |
Date | 198912 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewk |
State Reference | KS |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1700 msl bound upper : 2200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 2 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 136468 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time total : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 130815 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was right seat as safety ATP on small aircraft X. A second observer, knowledgeable but unrated, was left rear seat. Good visibility. The hooded IFR pilot flew the NDB approach, working traffic on CTAF. I suggested the pilot keep high after the low station. He did so. Approximately 1 mi north of the runway the second observer and I saw a light twin small aircraft Y on left base turn final under us, about 500 ft below. I doubt he saw us. He did not use CTAF. I called missed. The pilot initiated miss straight ahead and removed hood. No problem, no close call, but it is unnerving to see a plane pop into view unannounced. Both observers thought their heads were uncaged and eyeballs outside the plane, but we missed this one. 2 obvious thoughts: 1) watch 200%, 2) talk a lot. It is a good idea to stay high on these practice approachs where we wish mostly to hone ADF needle skills.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA WITH OBSERVER PLT ABOARD CONDUCTING PRACTICE ADF APCH TO UNCONTROLLED ARPT HAS NMAC WITH ANOTHER SMA NOT COMMUNICATING WITH CTAF.
Narrative: I WAS R SEAT AS SAFETY ATP ON SMA X. A SECOND OBSERVER, KNOWLEDGEABLE BUT UNRATED, WAS L REAR SEAT. GOOD VISIBILITY. THE HOODED IFR PLT FLEW THE NDB APCH, WORKING TFC ON CTAF. I SUGGESTED THE PLT KEEP HIGH AFTER THE LOW STATION. HE DID SO. APPROX 1 MI N OF THE RWY THE SECOND OBSERVER AND I SAW A LIGHT TWIN SMA Y ON L BASE TURN FINAL UNDER US, ABOUT 500 FT BELOW. I DOUBT HE SAW US. HE DID NOT USE CTAF. I CALLED MISSED. THE PLT INITIATED MISS STRAIGHT AHEAD AND REMOVED HOOD. NO PROB, NO CLOSE CALL, BUT IT IS UNNERVING TO SEE A PLANE POP INTO VIEW UNANNOUNCED. BOTH OBSERVERS THOUGHT THEIR HEADS WERE UNCAGED AND EYEBALLS OUTSIDE THE PLANE, BUT WE MISSED THIS ONE. 2 OBVIOUS THOUGHTS: 1) WATCH 200%, 2) TALK A LOT. IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO STAY HIGH ON THESE PRACTICE APCHS WHERE WE WISH MOSTLY TO HONE ADF NEEDLE SKILLS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.