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Attributes | |
ACN | 138912 |
Time | |
Date | 199003 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lin |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zoa |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 138912 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While climbing en route to intercept J92 southeast of oal our flight was cleared by oak ARTCC to 'climb to FL330' and 'expedite through FL290'. A number of radio xmissions were occurring between oak ARTCC and en route IFR aircraft. A few mins passed and oak ARTCC instructed our flight to 'resume normal speed.' we complied and continued our climb to our previously assigned altitude of FL330. Passing FL300 we were asked to 'confirm that we were level FL290.' we replied 'negative, climbing through 300.' if oak ARTCC ever issued our flight instructions to maintain FL290 we never received and certainly never acknowledged same. It is possible that either the controller meant to issue that as part of the 'resume normal speed' clearance and didn't, or that his transmission was blocked. The point is that controllers are not allowing time for readback of clrncs before transmitting another. As long as the system depends on radio transmission to give and receive clrncs with no backup, this situation will continue to be repeated.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR DID NOT RECEIVE ALT CLRNC AMENDMENT.
Narrative: WHILE CLIMBING ENRTE TO INTERCEPT J92 SE OF OAL OUR FLT WAS CLRED BY OAK ARTCC TO 'CLIMB TO FL330' AND 'EXPEDITE THROUGH FL290'. A NUMBER OF RADIO XMISSIONS WERE OCCURRING BETWEEN OAK ARTCC AND ENRTE IFR ACFT. A FEW MINS PASSED AND OAK ARTCC INSTRUCTED OUR FLT TO 'RESUME NORMAL SPEED.' WE COMPLIED AND CONTINUED OUR CLIMB TO OUR PREVIOUSLY ASSIGNED ALT OF FL330. PASSING FL300 WE WERE ASKED TO 'CONFIRM THAT WE WERE LEVEL FL290.' WE REPLIED 'NEGATIVE, CLIMBING THROUGH 300.' IF OAK ARTCC EVER ISSUED OUR FLT INSTRUCTIONS TO MAINTAIN FL290 WE NEVER RECEIVED AND CERTAINLY NEVER ACKNOWLEDGED SAME. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT EITHER THE CTLR MEANT TO ISSUE THAT AS PART OF THE 'RESUME NORMAL SPEED' CLRNC AND DIDN'T, OR THAT HIS XMISSION WAS BLOCKED. THE POINT IS THAT CTLRS ARE NOT ALLOWING TIME FOR READBACK OF CLRNCS BEFORE XMITTING ANOTHER. AS LONG AS THE SYSTEM DEPENDS ON RADIO XMISSION TO GIVE AND RECEIVE CLRNCS WITH NO BACKUP, THIS SITUATION WILL CONTINUE TO BE REPEATED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.