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Close proximity GA small aircraft on training flight making a simulated engine out approach landing and GA small aircraft making a touch and go on crossing runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 145377 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199005 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : akr |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 150 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : bdl |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | landing : go around landing other other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
| Flight Phase | landing : go around landing other other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 360 flight time type : 150 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 150 vertical : 50 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was practicing lndgs at akr with my student. We had just taken off runway 25 climbing out on the crosswind leg, then turned to the downwind leg. We were at 1900' MSL. I then pulled the throttle of the engine to simulate an engine failure. He went through the engine out procedure and picked runway 01 to land on. I said ok, and told him to do what he had to do to land. At the same time, there was an aircraft on final for a full stop on runway 25. My student slipped the aircraft down to land. When he started his flare the wind went to a tail wind, the aircraft landing 25 did a touch and go. Our right wheel touched down. I called my aircraft and executed a go around. We climbed out and missed the other aircraft who was still rolling before adding power. I just let him do the wrong thing and take it too far. We should have executed a simulated engine out landing on 25 (we could have made that easily), but I wanted to let him go through with his decision.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX GA SMA ON TRAINING FLT MAKING A SIMULATED ENGINE OUT APCH LNDG AND GA SMA MAKING A TOUCH AND GO ON CROSSING RWY.
Narrative: I WAS PRACTICING LNDGS AT AKR WITH MY STUDENT. WE HAD JUST TAKEN OFF RWY 25 CLBING OUT ON THE XWIND LEG, THEN TURNED TO THE DOWNWIND LEG. WE WERE AT 1900' MSL. I THEN PULLED THE THROTTLE OF THE ENG TO SIMULATE AN ENG FAILURE. HE WENT THROUGH THE ENG OUT PROC AND PICKED RWY 01 TO LAND ON. I SAID OK, AND TOLD HIM TO DO WHAT HE HAD TO DO TO LAND. AT THE SAME TIME, THERE WAS AN ACFT ON FINAL FOR A FULL STOP ON RWY 25. MY STUDENT SLIPPED THE ACFT DOWN TO LAND. WHEN HE STARTED HIS FLARE THE WIND WENT TO A TAIL WIND, THE ACFT LNDG 25 DID A TOUCH AND GO. OUR RIGHT WHEEL TOUCHED DOWN. I CALLED MY ACFT AND EXECUTED A GAR. WE CLBED OUT AND MISSED THE OTHER ACFT WHO WAS STILL ROLLING BEFORE ADDING PWR. I JUST LET HIM DO THE WRONG THING AND TAKE IT TOO FAR. WE SHOULD HAVE EXECUTED A SIMULATED ENG OUT LNDG ON 25 (WE COULD HAVE MADE THAT EASILY), BUT I WANTED TO LET HIM GO THROUGH WITH HIS DECISION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.