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Attributes | |
ACN | 148074 |
Time | |
Date | 199006 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : swf |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 500 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : swf tower : phl |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 260 flight time total : 840 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 148074 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While doing practice approachs. Ny approach cleared us for the approach and turned us over to swf tower. We checked in and were told to report procedures turn inbound, which we did. Swf tower then told us to report final approach fix inbound. This was an NDB approach, my student's first in a high performance aircraft. He got behind the aircraft and the approach, and at the same time we were informed of traffic which preoccupied me only to come back to an aircraft nt on course. I helped student to reestablish course, but missed the FAF call and made a low approach. The controller informed me of such while on the go around. With student's unfamiliarity with aircraft, and this type of approach the hardest to teach, plus searching for VFR aircraft on a 4 mi and hazy, the call evaded me.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA INS TRAINING ON NDB APCH FAILS TO MAKE FAF CALL AS INSTRUCTED AND MAKES LOW PASS WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: WHILE DOING PRACTICE APCHS. NY APCH CLRED US FOR THE APCH AND TURNED US OVER TO SWF TWR. WE CHKED IN AND WERE TOLD TO RPT PROCS TURN INBND, WHICH WE DID. SWF TWR THEN TOLD US TO RPT FINAL APCH FIX INBND. THIS WAS AN NDB APCH, MY STUDENT'S FIRST IN A HIGH PERFORMANCE ACFT. HE GOT BEHIND THE ACFT AND THE APCH, AND AT THE SAME TIME WE WERE INFORMED OF TFC WHICH PREOCCUPIED ME ONLY TO COME BACK TO AN ACFT NT ON COURSE. I HELPED STUDENT TO REESTABLISH COURSE, BUT MISSED THE FAF CALL AND MADE A LOW APCH. THE CTLR INFORMED ME OF SUCH WHILE ON THE GO AROUND. WITH STUDENT'S UNFAMILIARITY WITH ACFT, AND THIS TYPE OF APCH THE HARDEST TO TEACH, PLUS SEARCHING FOR VFR ACFT ON A 4 MI AND HAZY, THE CALL EVADED ME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.