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Attributes | |
ACN | 148224 |
Time | |
Date | 199006 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zzz |
State Reference | US |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 148224 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | observation : air carrier inspector |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
Ramp check by FAA for routine items, license, medical and publications. My commercial chart was posted through change 25. When I returned to home airport my file contained change 26, dated 6/8/90. Even though there was no information pertinent to the flight in the change, the FAA has been overzealous and unreasonable when checking publications for currency. Unless these changes are sent overnight mail to the individual, a more reasonable approach by the FAA needs to be taken. The topic of conversation for the rest of the day was wondering whether we had the current change. As it was, we (captain and I) did not. Some form of grace period should be observed before the FAA starts issuing citations for out of date publications, or make the effective date of the publication 2 weeks (as a minimums) after the mailing date.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLT CREW QUESTIONED AND ADMONISHED FOR NOT HAVING CURRENT ARPT CHARTS.
Narrative: RAMP CHK BY FAA FOR ROUTINE ITEMS, LICENSE, MEDICAL AND PUBLICATIONS. MY COMMERCIAL CHART WAS POSTED THROUGH CHANGE 25. WHEN I RETURNED TO HOME ARPT MY FILE CONTAINED CHANGE 26, DATED 6/8/90. EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS NO INFO PERTINENT TO THE FLT IN THE CHANGE, THE FAA HAS BEEN OVERZEALOUS AND UNREASONABLE WHEN CHKING PUBLICATIONS FOR CURRENCY. UNLESS THESE CHANGES ARE SENT OVERNIGHT MAIL TO THE INDIVIDUAL, A MORE REASONABLE APCH BY THE FAA NEEDS TO BE TAKEN. THE TOPIC OF CONVERSATION FOR THE REST OF THE DAY WAS WONDERING WHETHER WE HAD THE CURRENT CHANGE. AS IT WAS, WE (CAPT AND I) DID NOT. SOME FORM OF GRACE PERIOD SHOULD BE OBSERVED BEFORE THE FAA STARTS ISSUING CITATIONS FOR OUT OF DATE PUBLICATIONS, OR MAKE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE PUBLICATION 2 WKS (AS A MINIMUMS) AFTER THE MAILING DATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.