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Attributes | |
ACN | 148660 |
Time | |
Date | 199006 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 13000 msl bound upper : 15000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 8800 |
ASRS Report | 148660 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : unable none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After several attempts to instruct us to cross whigg at 13000'/250 KTS, we finally acknowledged the instructions. (Center apparently attempted 3 times, each time was covered/and/or blocked by other xmissions). By this time we were too high to meet the restriction and attempted to contact center to let them know. However, center was too busy and finally they contacted us at 15000' to turn right to 060 degrees to 'spin' us out. Congestion on radios plus the fact that instructions were given too late (ie we were high) contributed to this missed crossing restriction. I believe center was too busy and simply got to us too late to make a normal descent to 13000'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG ALT DEVIATION CROSSING RESTRICTION NOT MET.
Narrative: AFTER SEVERAL ATTEMPTS TO INSTRUCT US TO CROSS WHIGG AT 13000'/250 KTS, WE FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGED THE INSTRUCTIONS. (CTR APPARENTLY ATTEMPTED 3 TIMES, EACH TIME WAS COVERED/AND/OR BLOCKED BY OTHER XMISSIONS). BY THIS TIME WE WERE TOO HIGH TO MEET THE RESTRICTION AND ATTEMPTED TO CONTACT CTR TO LET THEM KNOW. HOWEVER, CTR WAS TOO BUSY AND FINALLY THEY CONTACTED US AT 15000' TO TURN R TO 060 DEGS TO 'SPIN' US OUT. CONGESTION ON RADIOS PLUS THE FACT THAT INSTRUCTIONS WERE GIVEN TOO LATE (IE WE WERE HIGH) CONTRIBUTED TO THIS MISSED XING RESTRICTION. I BELIEVE CTR WAS TOO BUSY AND SIMPLY GOT TO US TOO LATE TO MAKE A NORMAL DSNT TO 13000'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.