Aircraft entered N90's airspace without proper coordination.

Attributes
ACN	167182
Time
Date	199101
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : rbv airport : ewr
State Reference	NJ
Altitude	msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zdc tracon : n90
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival star : star enroute airway : n90 enroute airway : zdc
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : handoff position
Qualification	controller : radar
Experience	controller military : 10 controller radar : 6 controller supervisory : 6
ASRS Report	167182
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : radar
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited penetrated airspace none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Operational Deviation

Narrative:

Every day the traffic management units of ZDC and ny TRACON decide what in trail restrictions are needed for ewr and lga. Every day the controllers in ny TRACON cut us off west/O warning, even though they were getting the required spacing. Today was no different. We were reading 10 mi north trail to ewr. I was attempting to relieve the radar controller at R19, woodstown sector, ZDC. As part of the position relief briefing, the controller warmed me that N90, ny TRACON, was taking the handoffs late. As we progressed in the briefing and I was almost ready to take over, N90 did not take the handoff on medium large transport. I tried to call them on the handoff landline. They would not answer. We had to go into an immediate hold for ewr. To spin medium large transport we violated approach airspace--it was physically impossible not to. All the time in the spin and putting the other aircraft into a hold, N90 (warrd controller) would not answer the line. Not until 5 mins later--a long time in the world of ATC--did someone from N90 answer the line and proceed to inform us that we would hold about 15 mins. 'Thanks for the advance warning,' I coldly stated. Well NASA, this kind of stuff happens day in and day out. When it happens to me, I'll write.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACFT ENTERED N90'S AIRSPACE WITHOUT PROPER COORD.

Narrative: EVERY DAY THE TFC MGMNT UNITS OF ZDC AND NY TRACON DECIDE WHAT IN TRAIL RESTRICTIONS ARE NEEDED FOR EWR AND LGA. EVERY DAY THE CTLRS IN NY TRACON CUT US OFF W/O WARNING, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE GETTING THE REQUIRED SPACING. TODAY WAS NO DIFFERENT. WE WERE READING 10 MI N TRAIL TO EWR. I WAS ATTEMPTING TO RELIEVE THE RADAR CTLR AT R19, WOODSTOWN SECTOR, ZDC. AS PART OF THE POS RELIEF BRIEFING, THE CTLR WARMED ME THAT N90, NY TRACON, WAS TAKING THE HDOFS LATE. AS WE PROGRESSED IN THE BRIEFING AND I WAS ALMOST READY TO TAKE OVER, N90 DID NOT TAKE THE HDOF ON MLG. I TRIED TO CALL THEM ON THE HDOF LANDLINE. THEY WOULD NOT ANSWER. WE HAD TO GO INTO AN IMMEDIATE HOLD FOR EWR. TO SPIN MLG WE VIOLATED APCH AIRSPACE--IT WAS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO. ALL THE TIME IN THE SPIN AND PUTTING THE OTHER ACFT INTO A HOLD, N90 (WARRD CTLR) WOULD NOT ANSWER THE LINE. NOT UNTIL 5 MINS LATER--A LONG TIME IN THE WORLD OF ATC--DID SOMEONE FROM N90 ANSWER THE LINE AND PROCEED TO INFORM US THAT WE WOULD HOLD ABOUT 15 MINS. 'THANKS FOR THE ADVANCE WARNING,' I COLDLY STATED. WELL NASA, THIS KIND OF STUFF HAPPENS DAY IN AND DAY OUT. WHEN IT HAPPENS TO ME, I'LL WRITE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.