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Attributes | |
ACN | 173110 |
Time | |
Date | 199103 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sna |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 14500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : cvg |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zla |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 173110 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 30 |
ASRS Report | 173011 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Level flight inbound to kayoh intersection at 14000' speed 270 KIAS. TCAS displayed a F/a to climb at rate of approximately 1800 FPM, immediately complied. Aircraft climbed to 14500' before clearing traffic. After TCAS F/a conflicting traffic sighted visly (a military trner maneuvering to remain VFR). Descended to 14000'. No conflict with approach control. Reported TCAS maneuver to approach control and continued arrival. Altitude excursion was 500'. When the TCAS displayed right/a both pilots went inside the cockpit to confirm the conflict. No one was initially looking outside. Took precious seconds to interpret the screen and to visly locate the traffic. I recommend a procedure be initiated to have the PF look immediately outside the aircraft and the PNF immediately call traffic location and relative altitude and confirm the climb/descend or turn resolution. Example 'traffic 12 O'clock, 2000' high, descend and turn left.' this procedure would get one pilot outside, the other confirming the location and the required evasive action with an immediate required response.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TCAS II RA CLIMB. FLT CREW CLIMBED ACFT 500'. RESOLUTION. THEN RETURNED TO 14000'.
Narrative: LEVEL FLT INBND TO KAYOH INTXN AT 14000' SPD 270 KIAS. TCAS DISPLAYED A F/A TO CLB AT RATE OF APPROX 1800 FPM, IMMEDIATELY COMPLIED. ACFT CLBED TO 14500' BEFORE CLRING TFC. AFTER TCAS F/A CONFLICTING TFC SIGHTED VISLY (A MIL TRNER MANEUVERING TO REMAIN VFR). DSNDED TO 14000'. NO CONFLICT WITH APCH CTL. RPTED TCAS MANEUVER TO APCH CTL AND CONTINUED ARR. ALT EXCURSION WAS 500'. WHEN THE TCAS DISPLAYED R/A BOTH PLTS WENT INSIDE THE COCKPIT TO CONFIRM THE CONFLICT. NO ONE WAS INITIALLY LOOKING OUTSIDE. TOOK PRECIOUS SECS TO INTERPRET THE SCREEN AND TO VISLY LOCATE THE TFC. I RECOMMEND A PROC BE INITIATED TO HAVE THE PF LOOK IMMEDIATELY OUTSIDE THE ACFT AND THE PNF IMMEDIATELY CALL TFC LOCATION AND RELATIVE ALT AND CONFIRM THE CLB/DSND OR TURN RESOLUTION. EXAMPLE 'TFC 12 O'CLOCK, 2000' HIGH, DSND AND TURN L.' THIS PROC WOULD GET ONE PLT OUTSIDE, THE OTHER CONFIRMING THE LOCATION AND THE REQUIRED EVASIVE ACTION WITH AN IMMEDIATE REQUIRED RESPONSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.