Near midair collision.

Attributes
ACN	184391
Time
Date	199107
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : scy
State Reference	TX
Altitude	msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 6000
Environment
Flight Conditions	Marginal
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : dfw artcc : zoa
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : dfw
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	enroute : direct
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 420
ASRS Report	184391
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : undershoot conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 50 vertical : 100
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

We were descended by center from 14000 ft to 5000 ft. Traffic was called at 11 O'clock, 6000 ft VFR. We could not see because the sun was in our eyes and it was very hazy. I don't think they told us he was descending either but I could be wrong. We had asked for pilots discretion to 5000 ft but it was denied. Center called the traffic, then handed us off to approach. The airplane passed just to our right a little higher than we were. The captain reported a near miss. We didn't see him until it was almost too late. The other guy never saw us. It would be a lot better if approach could keep us at a higher altitude over scurry (one of the arrival gates into dfw) and keep us out of VFR traffic, which is at the lower altitudes.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: NMAC.

Narrative: WE WERE DSNDED BY CENTER FROM 14000 FT TO 5000 FT. TFC WAS CALLED AT 11 O'CLOCK, 6000 FT VFR. WE COULD NOT SEE BECAUSE THE SUN WAS IN OUR EYES AND IT WAS VERY HAZY. I DON'T THINK THEY TOLD US HE WAS DSNDING EITHER BUT I COULD BE WRONG. WE HAD ASKED FOR PLTS DISCRETION TO 5000 FT BUT IT WAS DENIED. CENTER CALLED THE TFC, THEN HANDED US OFF TO APCH. THE AIRPLANE PASSED JUST TO OUR R A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WE WERE. THE CAPT RPTED A NEAR MISS. WE DIDN'T SEE HIM UNTIL IT WAS ALMOST TOO LATE. THE OTHER GUY NEVER SAW US. IT WOULD BE A LOT BETTER IF APCH COULD KEEP US AT A HIGHER ALT OVER SCURRY (ONE OF THE ARR GATES INTO DFW) AND KEEP US OUT OF VFR TFC, WHICH IS AT THE LOWER ALTS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.