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Attributes | |
ACN | 192035 |
Time | |
Date | 199110 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 500 agl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dtw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other landing other |
Route In Use | approach : straight in approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 15000 |
ASRS Report | 192035 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 191927 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
I was the captain on flight on oct/sun/91. I was the PF. We had been cleared for a visual approach to 21L, following other traffic, by approach control. We were switched from approach to detroit tower. The first officer checked in with the tower, and the tower's initial contact was 'company identify, cleared to land 21C.' of this I am sure. I remember being pleasantly surprised to be getting 21C, it would mean a shorter taxi to the gate. The first officer read back 'company identify, cleared to land, 21C.' there was no further discussion until approximately XXX local detroit time when an airplane holding short of 21C asked the tower if he had traffic on short final to 21C. We were at approximately 500 ft AGL. I don't remember how the tower said it, but they asked us if we were lined up on 21C. The first officer restated that we had been cleared to land 21C. The tower indicated that there was no conflict and again cleared us to land 21C. We asked ground control for a telephone number taxiing in. I immediately called the dtw tower and I spoke with the supervisor. He indicated that he and the controller involved had been discussing it. He assured me that there was no conflict and that he was instituting no action. He had me talk briefly to the controller. He also confirmed there was no conflict, and that traffic had been heavy and that there was no problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG CLRED TO LAND ON 21C IS QUESTIONED BY TWR WHILE ON SHORT FINAL THEN RECLRED TO LAND ON 21C. TWR THOUGHT THE LNDG CLRNC WAS TO 21L.
Narrative: I WAS THE CAPT ON FLT ON OCT/SUN/91. I WAS THE PF. WE HAD BEEN CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH TO 21L, FOLLOWING OTHER TFC, BY APCH CTL. WE WERE SWITCHED FROM APCH TO DETROIT TWR. THE FO CHKED IN WITH THE TWR, AND THE TWR'S INITIAL CONTACT WAS 'COMPANY IDENT, CLRED TO LAND 21C.' OF THIS I AM SURE. I REMEMBER BEING PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO BE GETTING 21C, IT WOULD MEAN A SHORTER TAXI TO THE GATE. THE FO READ BACK 'COMPANY IDENT, CLRED TO LAND, 21C.' THERE WAS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION UNTIL APPROX XXX LCL DETROIT TIME WHEN AN AIRPLANE HOLDING SHORT OF 21C ASKED THE TWR IF HE HAD TFC ON SHORT FINAL TO 21C. WE WERE AT APPROX 500 FT AGL. I DON'T REMEMBER HOW THE TWR SAID IT, BUT THEY ASKED US IF WE WERE LINED UP ON 21C. THE FO RESTATED THAT WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO LAND 21C. THE TWR INDICATED THAT THERE WAS NO CONFLICT AND AGAIN CLRED US TO LAND 21C. WE ASKED GND CTL FOR A TELEPHONE NUMBER TAXIING IN. I IMMEDIATELY CALLED THE DTW TWR AND I SPOKE WITH THE SUPVR. HE INDICATED THAT HE AND THE CTLR INVOLVED HAD BEEN DISCUSSING IT. HE ASSURED ME THAT THERE WAS NO CONFLICT AND THAT HE WAS INSTITUTING NO ACTION. HE HAD ME TALK BRIEFLY TO THE CTLR. HE ALSO CONFIRMED THERE WAS NO CONFLICT, AND THAT TFC HAD BEEN HVY AND THAT THERE WAS NO PROBLEM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.