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Attributes | |
ACN | 200051 |
Time | |
Date | 199201 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dab |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 120 |
ASRS Report | 200051 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On a visual into daytona beach, I remember us being cleared for the visual approach by the final controller. On final, I asked the captain if we were cleared to land. He said we were. I do not recall a radio exchange between us and the tower. After landing on rollout, the captain took the airplane and we turned off the runway. I looked to tune the radios to ground and I noticed that one was on dab approach and the other was tuned to ground. When I asked the captain about this, he said he must have tuned ground into the radio that tower had been tuned to after landing clearance. This would have left the other radio tuned to approach. The fact that neither radio was tuned to tower, and that I don't recall any exchange between us, makes me think we landed without a clearance. However, the ground controller never indicated anything was wrong when we contacted him.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LNDG WITHOUT CLRNC FROM TWR.
Narrative: ON A VISUAL INTO DAYTONA BEACH, I REMEMBER US BEING CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH BY THE FINAL CTLR. ON FINAL, I ASKED THE CAPT IF WE WERE CLRED TO LAND. HE SAID WE WERE. I DO NOT RECALL A RADIO EXCHANGE BTWN US AND THE TWR. AFTER LNDG ON ROLLOUT, THE CAPT TOOK THE AIRPLANE AND WE TURNED OFF THE RWY. I LOOKED TO TUNE THE RADIOS TO GND AND I NOTICED THAT ONE WAS ON DAB APCH AND THE OTHER WAS TUNED TO GND. WHEN I ASKED THE CAPT ABOUT THIS, HE SAID HE MUST HAVE TUNED GND INTO THE RADIO THAT TWR HAD BEEN TUNED TO AFTER LNDG CLRNC. THIS WOULD HAVE LEFT THE OTHER RADIO TUNED TO APCH. THE FACT THAT NEITHER RADIO WAS TUNED TO TWR, AND THAT I DON'T RECALL ANY EXCHANGE BTWN US, MAKES ME THINK WE LANDED WITHOUT A CLRNC. HOWEVER, THE GND CTLR NEVER INDICATED ANYTHING WAS WRONG WHEN WE CONTACTED HIM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.