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Attributes | |
ACN | 201297 |
Time | |
Date | 199201 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dca |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach landing : go around |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 875 |
ASRS Report | 201297 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 200662 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Our flight was cleared by tower to cross runway 15 and hold short runway 18. Medium large transport air carrier Z was holding in pad area. Captain was taxiing and I was on radio. I told tower that we would be ready at the end. Tower advised that we would be #1, hold short. I acknowledged and told captain that I would be off to brief the passenger about flight. This lets the captain know he is responsible for radio communication. (When either microphone is keyed, all speakers are cut out to eliminate feedback). While briefing passenger the captain continued to taxi over hold line. Since I could not hear tower while talking to passenger I assumed we had been cleared to go and told the passenger just that. When I came back to tower frequency, tower asked if we were holding short. By this time the right wing and nose were over the hold line and we told tower about our position. Tower said turn off runway and hold short. We had not enough room to turn off the runway for landing traffic. Tower instructed landing traffic to go around. We apologized and tower then cleared us to go. Captain misunderstood hold short. He heard only you are #1 and assumed we were cleared into position. Supplemental information from acn 200662: was told to taxi up to and hold short of runway 18. As we approached the runway hold short line, the first officer made PA to flight attendants 'we have been cleared onto runway for takeoff, please be seated.' I overheard the cleared onto runway and mistakenly thought first officer was responding to a tower transmission. As we crossed the line, tower asked our position and we stopped and acknowledged we had crossed white line (by 10 ft). Since we were unable to turn around it caused a go around for large transport air carrier Y making approach, the WX was snow with a slight accumulation. The visibility was decreasing and I was concerned about spending time on the ground without deicing. The runway incursion which caused a subsequent go around was completely my fault. I do believe, however, the language used to advise flight attendants should be structured to prevent a similar situation. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter gave information reference aircraft Y type, miss distance. Says too many assumptions on part of flight crew. Once they got past hold line they could not turn back off runway without going entirely onto runway. After Y went around they were cleared into takeoff position. Air carrier Z on runup pad was going to be delayed and tower controller did not want air carrier X to get stuck behind that aircraft so he told X they were #1.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: UNAUTHORIZED RWY ENTRY BY ACR CAUSED GAR.
Narrative: OUR FLT WAS CLRED BY TWR TO CROSS RWY 15 AND HOLD SHORT RWY 18. MLG ACR Z WAS HOLDING IN PAD AREA. CAPT WAS TAXIING AND I WAS ON RADIO. I TOLD TWR THAT WE WOULD BE READY AT THE END. TWR ADVISED THAT WE WOULD BE #1, HOLD SHORT. I ACKNOWLEDGED AND TOLD CAPT THAT I WOULD BE OFF TO BRIEF THE PAX ABOUT FLT. THIS LETS THE CAPT KNOW HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR RADIO COM. (WHEN EITHER MIKE IS KEYED, ALL SPEAKERS ARE CUT OUT TO ELIMINATE FEEDBACK). WHILE BRIEFING PAX THE CAPT CONTINUED TO TAXI OVER HOLD LINE. SINCE I COULD NOT HEAR TWR WHILE TALKING TO PAX I ASSUMED WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO GO AND TOLD THE PAX JUST THAT. WHEN I CAME BACK TO TWR FREQ, TWR ASKED IF WE WERE HOLDING SHORT. BY THIS TIME THE R WING AND NOSE WERE OVER THE HOLD LINE AND WE TOLD TWR ABOUT OUR POS. TWR SAID TURN OFF RWY AND HOLD SHORT. WE HAD NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO TURN OFF THE RWY FOR LNDG TFC. TWR INSTRUCTED LNDG TFC TO GAR. WE APOLOGIZED AND TWR THEN CLRED US TO GO. CAPT MISUNDERSTOOD HOLD SHORT. HE HEARD ONLY YOU ARE #1 AND ASSUMED WE WERE CLRED INTO POS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 200662: WAS TOLD TO TAXI UP TO AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 18. AS WE APCHED THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINE, THE FO MADE PA TO FLT ATTENDANTS 'WE HAVE BEEN CLRED ONTO RWY FOR TKOF, PLEASE BE SEATED.' I OVERHEARD THE CLRED ONTO RWY AND MISTAKENLY THOUGHT FO WAS RESPONDING TO A TWR XMISSION. AS WE CROSSED THE LINE, TWR ASKED OUR POS AND WE STOPPED AND ACKNOWLEDGED WE HAD CROSSED WHITE LINE (BY 10 FT). SINCE WE WERE UNABLE TO TURN AROUND IT CAUSED A GAR FOR LGT ACR Y MAKING APCH, THE WX WAS SNOW WITH A SLIGHT ACCUMULATION. THE VISIBILITY WAS DECREASING AND I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT SPENDING TIME ON THE GND WITHOUT DEICING. THE RWY INCURSION WHICH CAUSED A SUBSEQUENT GAR WAS COMPLETELY MY FAULT. I DO BELIEVE, HOWEVER, THE LANGUAGE USED TO ADVISE FLT ATTENDANTS SHOULD BE STRUCTURED TO PREVENT A SIMILAR SITUATION. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR GAVE INFO REF ACFT Y TYPE, MISS DISTANCE. SAYS TOO MANY ASSUMPTIONS ON PART OF FLC. ONCE THEY GOT PAST HOLD LINE THEY COULD NOT TURN BACK OFF RWY WITHOUT GOING ENTIRELY ONTO RWY. AFTER Y WENT AROUND THEY WERE CLRED INTO TKOF POS. ACR Z ON RUNUP PAD WAS GOING TO BE DELAYED AND TWR CTLR DID NOT WANT ACR X TO GET STUCK BEHIND THAT ACFT SO HE TOLD X THEY WERE #1.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.