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Attributes | |
ACN | 203600 |
Time | |
Date | 199202 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ank |
State Reference | AK |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zan |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 203600 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was assigned first officer duties on flight from hkg to anc with captain and a relief first officer. Before departure I noticed personality conflict with the captain and relief first officer. Before engine start, the relief first officer sat in the first observer's seat. The captain asked the relief first officer to leave the seat and let the mechanic occupy the seat. The relief first officer went to the jumpseat. About 7 hours into the flight, I asked the captain to be relieved to go to the rest area and have the relief first officer come situation in the first officer seat. He said I could go back to the rest area, but no need to have relief first officer come forward. After 1 hour, I was awakened by the relief first officer and we observed the captain in the toilet. I returned to the first officer seat and continued the flight without incident. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states he and relief officer went to company who went to FAA. Hearing held, trial held. NTSB upheld the FAA recommendation for emergency revocation of captain certificate. The dispute was apparently over union issues. Does not know if captain will appeal.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CARGO FLT HAS CREW PERSONALITY PROBLEM. AT ONE POINT, NO ONE AT FLT CTLS.
Narrative: I WAS ASSIGNED FO DUTIES ON FLT FROM HKG TO ANC WITH CAPT AND A RELIEF FO. BEFORE DEP I NOTICED PERSONALITY CONFLICT WITH THE CAPT AND RELIEF FO. BEFORE ENG START, THE RELIEF FO SAT IN THE FIRST OBSERVER'S SEAT. THE CAPT ASKED THE RELIEF FO TO LEAVE THE SEAT AND LET THE MECH OCCUPY THE SEAT. THE RELIEF FO WENT TO THE JUMPSEAT. ABOUT 7 HRS INTO THE FLT, I ASKED THE CAPT TO BE RELIEVED TO GO TO THE REST AREA AND HAVE THE RELIEF FO COME SIT IN THE FO SEAT. HE SAID I COULD GO BACK TO THE REST AREA, BUT NO NEED TO HAVE RELIEF FO COME FORWARD. AFTER 1 HR, I WAS AWAKENED BY THE RELIEF FO AND WE OBSERVED THE CAPT IN THE TOILET. I RETURNED TO THE FO SEAT AND CONTINUED THE FLT WITHOUT INCIDENT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES HE AND RELIEF OFFICER WENT TO COMPANY WHO WENT TO FAA. HEARING HELD, TRIAL HELD. NTSB UPHELD THE FAA RECOMMENDATION FOR EMER REVOCATION OF CAPT CERTIFICATE. THE DISPUTE WAS APPARENTLY OVER UNION ISSUES. DOES NOT KNOW IF CAPT WILL APPEAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.