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Attributes | |
ACN | 205632 |
Time | |
Date | 199203 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 12500 flight time type : 25 |
ASRS Report | 205632 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
It is apparent to me this captain is not proficient in the aircraft. He had maximum power and was in vertical speed up approximately 1000 FPM. This caused the airspeed to accelerate past 250 KTS to approximately 310 KTS before he corrected situation. Then his correction was to increase vertical speed. Did not disengage automatic throttles to help speed reduction. At one point in trip he nearly stalled aircraft. Contributing factor: age. I do not think, if he is any indication, one should let him fly past 60. The flight engineer was shocked by his lack of proficiency and skill. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states he now feels there must have been something wrong with captain. His performance was so extremely poor. Callback made to see if reporter and engineer had applied any cockpit resource management training techniques or any company follow up with chief pilot. Reporter feels professional standards committee or union would be the way he would prefer to follow up. He is going to talk to them. Analyst assured him some younger 'cowboys' fly poorly too!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR EXCEEDS 250 KTS BELOW 10000 FT.
Narrative: IT IS APPARENT TO ME THIS CAPT IS NOT PROFICIENT IN THE ACFT. HE HAD MAX PWR AND WAS IN VERT SPD UP APPROX 1000 FPM. THIS CAUSED THE AIRSPD TO ACCELERATE PAST 250 KTS TO APPROX 310 KTS BEFORE HE CORRECTED SITUATION. THEN HIS CORRECTION WAS TO INCREASE VERT SPD. DID NOT DISENGAGE AUTO THROTTLES TO HELP SPD REDUCTION. AT ONE POINT IN TRIP HE NEARLY STALLED ACFT. CONTRIBUTING FACTOR: AGE. I DO NOT THINK, IF HE IS ANY INDICATION, ONE SHOULD LET HIM FLY PAST 60. THE FE WAS SHOCKED BY HIS LACK OF PROFICIENCY AND SKILL. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES HE NOW FEELS THERE MUST HAVE BEEN SOMETHING WRONG WITH CAPT. HIS PERFORMANCE WAS SO EXTREMELY POOR. CALLBACK MADE TO SEE IF RPTR AND ENGINEER HAD APPLIED ANY COCKPIT RESOURCE MGMNT TRAINING TECHNIQUES OR ANY COMPANY FOLLOW UP WITH CHIEF PLT. RPTR FEELS PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS COMMITTEE OR UNION WOULD BE THE WAY HE WOULD PREFER TO FOLLOW UP. HE IS GOING TO TALK TO THEM. ANALYST ASSURED HIM SOME YOUNGER 'COWBOYS' FLY POORLY TOO!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.