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Attributes | |
ACN | 222643 |
Time | |
Date | 199209 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : msp tower : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 222643 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | aircraft : equipment problem dissipated flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Climbing through 3200 to 5000 on 060 vector after takeoff 11L msp direct bdl departure control called traffic 12 O'clock 4 mi, mode C 4200. I leveled at 3700 as precaution as TCASII called 'traffic' then 'descend'. I began firm descent, noting red intruder 12 O'clock inside the 4 mi DOT circle. I find it interesting that upon looking at TCASII , I remember the red arc curving past the bottom (6 O'clock), the red intruder as close as 1/2 mi as the TCASII called 'increase descent.' my impression was that intruder must be descending into us since the original 500 ft separation called by ATC possibly shouldn't have brought on an RA. I estimate our maximum vertical speed 2000 FPM for a moment. We leveled at 3000 as red intruder turned green on TCASII at our 6 O'clock and TCASII called 'monitor vertical speed' and 'clear of conflict.' later phone call to departure control disclosed they vectored a nearby VFR aircraft to the 'intruder' return, a light single, and confirmed it level at 2000 below the clouds. They were unable to inform the 'intruder' that his mode C was erratically sending erroneous altitude information, varying from 5700 to 3000, thus there was no real miss just our luck to be there when 'intruder' sent 4200 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF ACR MLG ACFT RESPONDED TO A TCASII RA AND DEVIATED FROM ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: CLBING THROUGH 3200 TO 5000 ON 060 VECTOR AFTER TKOF 11L MSP DIRECT BDL DEP CTL CALLED TFC 12 O'CLOCK 4 MI, MODE C 4200. I LEVELED AT 3700 AS PRECAUTION AS TCASII CALLED 'TFC' THEN 'DSND'. I BEGAN FIRM DSCNT, NOTING RED INTRUDER 12 O'CLOCK INSIDE THE 4 MI DOT CIRCLE. I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT UPON LOOKING AT TCASII , I REMEMBER THE RED ARC CURVING PAST THE BOTTOM (6 O'CLOCK), THE RED INTRUDER AS CLOSE AS 1/2 MI AS THE TCASII CALLED 'INCREASE DSCNT.' MY IMPRESSION WAS THAT INTRUDER MUST BE DSNDING INTO US SINCE THE ORIGINAL 500 FT SEPARATION CALLED BY ATC POSSIBLY SHOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT ON AN RA. I ESTIMATE OUR MAX VERT SPD 2000 FPM FOR A MOMENT. WE LEVELED AT 3000 AS RED INTRUDER TURNED GREEN ON TCASII AT OUR 6 O'CLOCK AND TCASII CALLED 'MONITOR VERT SPD' AND 'CLR OF CONFLICT.' LATER PHONE CALL TO DEP CTL DISCLOSED THEY VECTORED A NEARBY VFR ACFT TO THE 'INTRUDER' RETURN, A LIGHT SINGLE, AND CONFIRMED IT LEVEL AT 2000 BELOW THE CLOUDS. THEY WERE UNABLE TO INFORM THE 'INTRUDER' THAT HIS MODE C WAS ERRATICALLY SENDING ERRONEOUS ALT INFO, VARYING FROM 5700 TO 3000, THUS THERE WAS NO REAL MISS JUST OUR LUCK TO BE THERE WHEN 'INTRUDER' SENT 4200 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.