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Attributes | |
ACN | 238117 |
Time | |
Date | 199304 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ffu airport : slc |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 16500 msl bound upper : 16500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : slc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Transport |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 1180 flight time type : 10 |
ASRS Report | 238117 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While climbing to 17500 ft MSL to drop 12 skydivers, I contacted slc approach to obtain VFR advisories. The controller gave me a beacon code at about 10500 ft in the climb. He was busy with IFR arrs into slc TCA. I was climbing VFR and about ready to start 'jump run' nwbound over cedar valley airport when I was issued the following advisory: 'TA, traffic 9 O'clock, immediate descent.' I began a gradual (500-1000 FPM) descent initially and looked for traffic. A widebody transport was in a descending right turn approaching me from 10-11 O'clock at approximately the same altitude. I immediately took maximum (full control deflection) evasive action. I descended as rapidly as possible. The widebody transport was in a 30 degree plus right bank and descending. We missed by less than 200 ft horizontally and vertically. I had been scanning for traffic the entire flight and just finished a scan of the 12-4 O'clock area. I feel the closure rate and angle of intercept contributed to this near collision. In addition, the controller's inability to offer a more timely advisory was a contributing factor. Bottom line: we were lucky and I will spend more time 'outside the cockpit' and not take complacency into any radar environment.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SMT CARRYING SKYDIVERS HAD AN NMAC WITH A WDB.
Narrative: WHILE CLBING TO 17500 FT MSL TO DROP 12 SKYDIVERS, I CONTACTED SLC APCH TO OBTAIN VFR ADVISORIES. THE CTLR GAVE ME A BEACON CODE AT ABOUT 10500 FT IN THE CLB. HE WAS BUSY WITH IFR ARRS INTO SLC TCA. I WAS CLBING VFR AND ABOUT READY TO START 'JUMP RUN' NWBOUND OVER CEDAR VALLEY ARPT WHEN I WAS ISSUED THE FOLLOWING ADVISORY: 'TA, TFC 9 O'CLOCK, IMMEDIATE DSCNT.' I BEGAN A GRADUAL (500-1000 FPM) DSCNT INITIALLY AND LOOKED FOR TFC. A WDB WAS IN A DSNDING R TURN APCHING ME FROM 10-11 O'CLOCK AT APPROX THE SAME ALT. I IMMEDIATELY TOOK MAX (FULL CTL DEFLECTION) EVASIVE ACTION. I DSNDED AS RAPIDLY AS POSSIBLE. THE WDB WAS IN A 30 DEG PLUS R BANK AND DSNDING. WE MISSED BY LESS THAN 200 FT HORIZLY AND VERTICALLY. I HAD BEEN SCANNING FOR TFC THE ENTIRE FLT AND JUST FINISHED A SCAN OF THE 12-4 O'CLOCK AREA. I FEEL THE CLOSURE RATE AND ANGLE OF INTERCEPT CONTRIBUTED TO THIS NEAR COLLISION. IN ADDITION, THE CTLR'S INABILITY TO OFFER A MORE TIMELY ADVISORY WAS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR. BOTTOM LINE: WE WERE LUCKY AND I WILL SPEND MORE TIME 'OUTSIDE THE COCKPIT' AND NOT TAKE COMPLACENCY INTO ANY RADAR ENVIRONMENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.