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Attributes | |
ACN | 240619 |
Time | |
Date | 199305 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 3r3 |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mkg |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 28 flight time total : 295 flight time type : 180 |
ASRS Report | 240619 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
There were several aircraft either on the ground awaiting takeoff or in the traffic pattern at austin executive airport when I approached on the 45 to enter the traffic pattern. Another aircraft, small aircraft a, announced that he was 3 mi east. I announced that I was 2 mi east, then announced entering left downwind for runway 18. Small aircraft a pilot announced left downwind for runway 18. As I turned base I announced my base leg, then small aircraft a pilot announced base. As I turned final I announced final, full stop, and then small aircraft a announced final. I made a wheel landing and was unable to stop until about 20 ft past the last taxiway in front of the FBO. Rather than tie up the runway by taxiing to the end, I elected to turn 180 degrees to exit the taxiway and announced what I was doing. When I turned the aircraft I saw small aircraft a coming toward me on the runway. He had apparently landed just behind me and was on rollout. I exited the runway as quickly as I could, as I could not judge his speed and was apprehensive of a collision. Small aircraft a was occupied by a student and instructor. The runway is 5000 ft long and this took place in the first 2/3 of it. I feel that the other airplane should not have landed on a runway of that length with another aircraft still on the runway. I did not discuss the incident with the instructor in small aircraft a so I do not know what their motivation was. However, I can think of no situation where landing so close behind another aircraft would be acceptable. This incident was witnessed by another flight instructor who was on downwind with a student and saw the other airplane following me. She stated that in her view the other aircraft should not have followed so closely and should have done a go around when it became apparent that they would land while I was still on the runway. The instructor in small aircraft a certainly was not teaching good procedures to his student. The pilot of small aircraft a and I were both remiss in not communicating with each other in the pattern. I should have asked him his position, if he saw me, and his intentions. I would have gone around myself if it would have prevented such a dangerous situation. If I had a problem with my aircraft, or if the other aircraft's brakes had failed, a collision might have occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA HAS CLOSE PROX TO SECOND SMA AFTER LNDG ON SAME RWY.
Narrative: THERE WERE SEVERAL ACFT EITHER ON THE GND AWAITING TKOF OR IN THE TFC PATTERN AT AUSTIN EXECUTIVE ARPT WHEN I APCHED ON THE 45 TO ENTER THE TFC PATTERN. ANOTHER ACFT, SMA A, ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS 3 MI E. I ANNOUNCED THAT I WAS 2 MI E, THEN ANNOUNCED ENTERING L DOWNWIND FOR RWY 18. SMA A PLT ANNOUNCED L DOWNWIND FOR RWY 18. AS I TURNED BASE I ANNOUNCED MY BASE LEG, THEN SMA A PLT ANNOUNCED BASE. AS I TURNED FINAL I ANNOUNCED FINAL, FULL STOP, AND THEN SMA A ANNOUNCED FINAL. I MADE A WHEEL LNDG AND WAS UNABLE TO STOP UNTIL ABOUT 20 FT PAST THE LAST TXWY IN FRONT OF THE FBO. RATHER THAN TIE UP THE RWY BY TAXIING TO THE END, I ELECTED TO TURN 180 DEGS TO EXIT THE TXWY AND ANNOUNCED WHAT I WAS DOING. WHEN I TURNED THE ACFT I SAW SMA A COMING TOWARD ME ON THE RWY. HE HAD APPARENTLY LANDED JUST BEHIND ME AND WAS ON ROLLOUT. I EXITED THE RWY AS QUICKLY AS I COULD, AS I COULD NOT JUDGE HIS SPD AND WAS APPREHENSIVE OF A COLLISION. SMA A WAS OCCUPIED BY A STUDENT AND INSTRUCTOR. THE RWY IS 5000 FT LONG AND THIS TOOK PLACE IN THE FIRST 2/3 OF IT. I FEEL THAT THE OTHER AIRPLANE SHOULD NOT HAVE LANDED ON A RWY OF THAT LENGTH WITH ANOTHER ACFT STILL ON THE RWY. I DID NOT DISCUSS THE INCIDENT WITH THE INSTRUCTOR IN SMA A SO I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEIR MOTIVATION WAS. HOWEVER, I CAN THINK OF NO SIT WHERE LNDG SO CLOSE BEHIND ANOTHER ACFT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. THIS INCIDENT WAS WITNESSED BY ANOTHER FLT INSTRUCTOR WHO WAS ON DOWNWIND WITH A STUDENT AND SAW THE OTHER AIRPLANE FOLLOWING ME. SHE STATED THAT IN HER VIEW THE OTHER ACFT SHOULD NOT HAVE FOLLOWED SO CLOSELY AND SHOULD HAVE DONE A GAR WHEN IT BECAME APPARENT THAT THEY WOULD LAND WHILE I WAS STILL ON THE RWY. THE INSTRUCTOR IN SMA A CERTAINLY WAS NOT TEACHING GOOD PROCS TO HIS STUDENT. THE PLT OF SMA A AND I WERE BOTH REMISS IN NOT COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER IN THE PATTERN. I SHOULD HAVE ASKED HIM HIS POS, IF HE SAW ME, AND HIS INTENTIONS. I WOULD HAVE GONE AROUND MYSELF IF IT WOULD HAVE PREVENTED SUCH A DANGEROUS SIT. IF I HAD A PROB WITH MY ACFT, OR IF THE OTHER ACFT'S BRAKES HAD FAILED, A COLLISION MIGHT HAVE OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.