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Attributes | |
ACN | 241994 |
Time | |
Date | 199305 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lny airport : hnl |
State Reference | HI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9700 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : hnl |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Experimental |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 241994 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 241995 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were given an early descent clearance by center to 'cross julle at or below 12000 ft, maintain 12000 ft.' (normal clearance is to cross julle at or below 14000 ft, maintain 10000 ft.) this clearance was revised to 'cross julle at or below 11000 ft, maintain 10000 ft.' passing 12600 ft, center asked our altitude, then gave us 240 degree heading (we were tracking 278 degree radial lny) and expedite descent. We were then given 280 degree heading and told to contact approach. First officer was flying and sank through 10000 ft to 9700 ft on level off. I told him to get back to 10000 ft immediately. At this exact time, we got an RA on TCASII to 'climb' which ceased as we leveled at 10000 ft. We sighted opposite direction traffic as I checked in with approach. Traffic was below us at 9000 ft, passed 3 mi off to right. We were never advised of traffic or the reason for an expedited descent, apparently into a potential conflict. Corrective actions: if at all possible, ATC should advise crew of reason for expedited action. Contributing factors: expedited actions may lead to excursions when crew is searching for traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN ACR MLG ACFT OVERSHOT DSCNT ALT RESULTING IN A TCASII RA.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN AN EARLY DSCNT CLRNC BY CTR TO 'CROSS JULLE AT OR BELOW 12000 FT, MAINTAIN 12000 FT.' (NORMAL CLRNC IS TO CROSS JULLE AT OR BELOW 14000 FT, MAINTAIN 10000 FT.) THIS CLRNC WAS REVISED TO 'CROSS JULLE AT OR BELOW 11000 FT, MAINTAIN 10000 FT.' PASSING 12600 FT, CTR ASKED OUR ALT, THEN GAVE US 240 DEG HDG (WE WERE TRACKING 278 DEG RADIAL LNY) AND EXPEDITE DSCNT. WE WERE THEN GIVEN 280 DEG HDG AND TOLD TO CONTACT APCH. FO WAS FLYING AND SANK THROUGH 10000 FT TO 9700 FT ON LEVEL OFF. I TOLD HIM TO GET BACK TO 10000 FT IMMEDIATELY. AT THIS EXACT TIME, WE GOT AN RA ON TCASII TO 'CLB' WHICH CEASED AS WE LEVELED AT 10000 FT. WE SIGHTED OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC AS I CHKED IN WITH APCH. TFC WAS BELOW US AT 9000 FT, PASSED 3 MI OFF TO R. WE WERE NEVER ADVISED OF TFC OR THE REASON FOR AN EXPEDITED DSCNT, APPARENTLY INTO A POTENTIAL CONFLICT. CORRECTIVE ACTIONS: IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, ATC SHOULD ADVISE CREW OF REASON FOR EXPEDITED ACTION. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: EXPEDITED ACTIONS MAY LEAD TO EXCURSIONS WHEN CREW IS SEARCHING FOR TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.