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Attributes | |
ACN | 247966 |
Time | |
Date | 199307 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ack |
State Reference | RI |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ack |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 247966 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 247969 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During the in-range checklist, I briefed the approach to runway 24. The WX was 100 X 2400 RVR. As per company policy this required a monitored approach which I brought to the attention of the captain. He said that I would do the landing as per a normal ILS approach. During this discussion I could see the island clearly and thought that although the WX was reported as 2400 RVR that it was very likely better and agreed to doing the landing. The approach was normal, up to the point of reaching the decision ht (200 ft) at which point I initiated the missed approach by pressing the toga buttons. The next instant and almost at the same time the captain yelled 'land, land!' I looked up and saw the runway approach lights over the nose, disengaged the automatic throttle as they were in go around mode and reduced the power to continue the approach. The runway lights came into view and as there were no callouts being made by the captain, I called out, 'what is my speed' and there was no response. At this point I had to situation a little back to see the instruments and noticed that we were about 10 KTS slow and a little below the GS. I immediately applied power but I had retarded the power enough to have the engines spool down and was unable to recover. We touched down at what I thought to be about 150 ft from the runway. As per normal ILS procedures the captain should have given altitude callouts and also callouts for deviations from normal safe approach criteria, i.e., speed, GS deviation, etc. Supplemental information from acn 247969: the flight was normal through completion of approach checklist. The first officer flew the approach and landing. Although we landed short, this was not fully realized until takeoff roll the next day (tire marks in grass). The aircraft looked normal on post-flight and on preflight the next day. We touched down short because I did not react quickly enough.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG ON ILS APCH LANDS IN GRASS PRIOR TO BEGINNING OF RWY.
Narrative: DURING THE IN-RANGE CHKLIST, I BRIEFED THE APCH TO RWY 24. THE WX WAS 100 X 2400 RVR. AS PER COMPANY POLICY THIS REQUIRED A MONITORED APCH WHICH I BROUGHT TO THE ATTN OF THE CAPT. HE SAID THAT I WOULD DO THE LNDG AS PER A NORMAL ILS APCH. DURING THIS DISCUSSION I COULD SEE THE ISLAND CLRLY AND THOUGHT THAT ALTHOUGH THE WX WAS RPTED AS 2400 RVR THAT IT WAS VERY LIKELY BETTER AND AGREED TO DOING THE LNDG. THE APCH WAS NORMAL, UP TO THE POINT OF REACHING THE DECISION HT (200 FT) AT WHICH POINT I INITIATED THE MISSED APCH BY PRESSING THE TOGA BUTTONS. THE NEXT INSTANT AND ALMOST AT THE SAME TIME THE CAPT YELLED 'LAND, LAND!' I LOOKED UP AND SAW THE RWY APCH LIGHTS OVER THE NOSE, DISENGAGED THE AUTO THROTTLE AS THEY WERE IN GAR MODE AND REDUCED THE PWR TO CONTINUE THE APCH. THE RWY LIGHTS CAME INTO VIEW AND AS THERE WERE NO CALLOUTS BEING MADE BY THE CAPT, I CALLED OUT, 'WHAT IS MY SPD' AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE. AT THIS POINT I HAD TO SIT A LITTLE BACK TO SEE THE INSTS AND NOTICED THAT WE WERE ABOUT 10 KTS SLOW AND A LITTLE BELOW THE GS. I IMMEDIATELY APPLIED PWR BUT I HAD RETARDED THE PWR ENOUGH TO HAVE THE ENGS SPOOL DOWN AND WAS UNABLE TO RECOVER. WE TOUCHED DOWN AT WHAT I THOUGHT TO BE ABOUT 150 FT FROM THE RWY. AS PER NORMAL ILS PROCS THE CAPT SHOULD HAVE GIVEN ALT CALLOUTS AND ALSO CALLOUTS FOR DEVS FROM NORMAL SAFE APCH CRITERIA, I.E., SPD, GS DEV, ETC. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 247969: THE FLT WAS NORMAL THROUGH COMPLETION OF APCH CHKLIST. THE FO FLEW THE APCH AND LNDG. ALTHOUGH WE LANDED SHORT, THIS WAS NOT FULLY REALIZED UNTIL TKOF ROLL THE NEXT DAY (TIRE MARKS IN GRASS). THE ACFT LOOKED NORMAL ON POST-FLT AND ON PREFLT THE NEXT DAY. WE TOUCHED DOWN SHORT BECAUSE I DID NOT REACT QUICKLY ENOUGH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.