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Attributes | |
ACN | 248831 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 19000 msl bound upper : 25000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 248831 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
En route from oma to den during a large inbound bank, we received various altitude and speed changes from ZDV. They cleared us to cross smity at FL190 at 250 KTS. During the descent we acknowledged a clearance to 15000 ft. Approaching smity and FL190 we saw on TCASII and visually another aircraft converging at smity. Radio congestion was heavy and we could not get verification of our cleared altitude. TCASII went off as we leveled out at about 18800 ft and started to climb back to FL190. Another controller cut in and asked our altitude and said that we were cleared to FL190. While trying to get our proper altitude verified, we received a TCASII RA to climb, followed immediately by one to descend. We were sandwiched between an aircraft at FL180 and FL200. This continued for 2-3 mins, maybe, while we complained about the continuous RA's, what our original cleared altitude was and what center's phone number was. The aircraft above us was also complaining about continuous RA's. Center finally gave us a vector out of the stack and put us back in line. It appeared that the controller was very near to being overloaded with the heavy inbound traffic. I think the TCASII needs to be modified so you don't get continuous RA's with no climb or descent indicated. ZDV has since pulled the tapes which show we were cleared to FL250 instead of 15000 ft. I misunderstood the clearance and read back the wrong flight level and the controller did not correct it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN LGT ACR ACFT OVERSHOT DSCNT ALT RESULTING IN CAUSING EVASIVE ACTION IN RESPONSE TO TCASII RA'S.
Narrative: ENRTE FROM OMA TO DEN DURING A LARGE INBOUND BANK, WE RECEIVED VARIOUS ALT AND SPD CHANGES FROM ZDV. THEY CLRED US TO CROSS SMITY AT FL190 AT 250 KTS. DURING THE DSCNT WE ACKNOWLEDGED A CLRNC TO 15000 FT. APCHING SMITY AND FL190 WE SAW ON TCASII AND VISUALLY ANOTHER ACFT CONVERGING AT SMITY. RADIO CONGESTION WAS HVY AND WE COULD NOT GET VERIFICATION OF OUR CLRED ALT. TCASII WENT OFF AS WE LEVELED OUT AT ABOUT 18800 FT AND STARTED TO CLB BACK TO FL190. ANOTHER CTLR CUT IN AND ASKED OUR ALT AND SAID THAT WE WERE CLRED TO FL190. WHILE TRYING TO GET OUR PROPER ALT VERIFIED, WE RECEIVED A TCASII RA TO CLB, FOLLOWED IMMEDIATELY BY ONE TO DSND. WE WERE SANDWICHED BTWN AN ACFT AT FL180 AND FL200. THIS CONTINUED FOR 2-3 MINS, MAYBE, WHILE WE COMPLAINED ABOUT THE CONTINUOUS RA'S, WHAT OUR ORIGINAL CLRED ALT WAS AND WHAT CTR'S PHONE NUMBER WAS. THE ACFT ABOVE US WAS ALSO COMPLAINING ABOUT CONTINUOUS RA'S. CTR FINALLY GAVE US A VECTOR OUT OF THE STACK AND PUT US BACK IN LINE. IT APPEARED THAT THE CTLR WAS VERY NEAR TO BEING OVERLOADED WITH THE HVY INBOUND TFC. I THINK THE TCASII NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED SO YOU DON'T GET CONTINUOUS RA'S WITH NO CLB OR DSCNT INDICATED. ZDV HAS SINCE PULLED THE TAPES WHICH SHOW WE WERE CLRED TO FL250 INSTEAD OF 15000 FT. I MISUNDERSTOOD THE CLRNC AND READ BACK THE WRONG FLT LEVEL AND THE CTLR DID NOT CORRECT IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.