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Attributes | |
ACN | 252163 |
Time | |
Date | 199309 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pmm |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 23000 msl bound upper : 23700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 252163 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were on the pmm arrival for landing at ord. We were level at FL230. Sky conditions were hazy, some clouds, choppy air, and were looking directly into the setting sun. Without any warning, TCASII screen displayed a red target, and simultaneously we received an aural warning to climb. Immediately another aural warning said, 'increase rate of climb' so I did. We tried to call ZAU and advise them what we were doing but he was very busy as usual. The moment TCASII said, 'clear of traffic,' we started back down to maintain FL230. We had gotten to 23.7. Once we got ahold of ZAU they said a 'light twin' was level at 220. Shortly after TCASII said, 'clear of traffic,' we saw a smaller type aircraft off of our right front heading nne. Aircraft was below us. Now, with all the haze, clouds, blinding sunset, I cannot honestly judge the distance. ATC said we conflicted with no one.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG CLBED IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII COMMAND.
Narrative: WE WERE ON THE PMM ARR FOR LNDG AT ORD. WE WERE LEVEL AT FL230. SKY CONDITIONS WERE HAZY, SOME CLOUDS, CHOPPY AIR, AND WERE LOOKING DIRECTLY INTO THE SETTING SUN. WITHOUT ANY WARNING, TCASII SCREEN DISPLAYED A RED TARGET, AND SIMULTANEOUSLY WE RECEIVED AN AURAL WARNING TO CLB. IMMEDIATELY ANOTHER AURAL WARNING SAID, 'INCREASE RATE OF CLB' SO I DID. WE TRIED TO CALL ZAU AND ADVISE THEM WHAT WE WERE DOING BUT HE WAS VERY BUSY AS USUAL. THE MOMENT TCASII SAID, 'CLR OF TFC,' WE STARTED BACK DOWN TO MAINTAIN FL230. WE HAD GOTTEN TO 23.7. ONCE WE GOT AHOLD OF ZAU THEY SAID A 'LIGHT TWIN' WAS LEVEL AT 220. SHORTLY AFTER TCASII SAID, 'CLR OF TFC,' WE SAW A SMALLER TYPE ACFT OFF OF OUR R FRONT HDG NNE. ACFT WAS BELOW US. NOW, WITH ALL THE HAZE, CLOUDS, BLINDING SUNSET, I CANNOT HONESTLY JUDGE THE DISTANCE. ATC SAID WE CONFLICTED WITH NO ONE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.