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Attributes | |
ACN | 257886 |
Time | |
Date | 199311 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl tower : atl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 8800 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 257886 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error other |
Narrative:
Upon handoff from atl tower to departure control, we received a TCASII RA climbing through 2200 ft MSL. Target distance estimated at 1 NM. Departure control gave us an immediate level-off. Climbing at 2500 FPM, we leveled at 2500 ft MSL. Traffic reported at 3000 ft MSL. Within 15 seconds we were clear of traffic. Departure's traffic call coincided with TCASII verbal, blocking some of both xmissions. We relied on the green fly-to arc as there was not time to ask departure control to repeat his traffic call. TCASII first indicated a green fly-to arc of 0-300 FPM climb with red for any greater climb. As we pushed over TCASII switched to green arc at 2500 FPM down (aircraft altitude 1500 ft AGL). The TCASII RA threshold, having been raised from 500 ft AGL to 1500 ft AGL, denies us of a more timely warning. Also would like to know why atl tower did not know/report traffic before we launched.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB ON DEP HAS TCASII RA TO STOP CLB.
Narrative: UPON HDOF FROM ATL TWR TO DEP CTL, WE RECEIVED A TCASII RA CLBING THROUGH 2200 FT MSL. TARGET DISTANCE ESTIMATED AT 1 NM. DEP CTL GAVE US AN IMMEDIATE LEVEL-OFF. CLBING AT 2500 FPM, WE LEVELED AT 2500 FT MSL. TFC RPTED AT 3000 FT MSL. WITHIN 15 SECONDS WE WERE CLR OF TFC. DEP'S TFC CALL COINCIDED WITH TCASII VERBAL, BLOCKING SOME OF BOTH XMISSIONS. WE RELIED ON THE GREEN FLY-TO ARC AS THERE WAS NOT TIME TO ASK DEP CTL TO REPEAT HIS TFC CALL. TCASII FIRST INDICATED A GREEN FLY-TO ARC OF 0-300 FPM CLB WITH RED FOR ANY GREATER CLB. AS WE PUSHED OVER TCASII SWITCHED TO GREEN ARC AT 2500 FPM DOWN (ACFT ALT 1500 FT AGL). THE TCASII RA THRESHOLD, HAVING BEEN RAISED FROM 500 FT AGL TO 1500 FT AGL, DENIES US OF A MORE TIMELY WARNING. ALSO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY ATL TWR DID NOT KNOW/RPT TFC BEFORE WE LAUNCHED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.